.45 ACP Minor Loads

[Gary Newport]

I may as well drop the other shoe and start a thread to solicit folks' pet MINOR loads for .45 ACP. (I'll get around to the .45 GAP threads later. :yesnod:)

For GSSF, IDPA SSP or USPSA production, as well as for some other kinds of shooting, there is no real need to load a .45 to Major. However, some of the competitions DO require that the load make Minor (PF of 125) -- which ain't exactly difficult for a .45 ACP!

Accuracy, reliability (especially with stock springs) and shootability would probably be the most heavily-weighted criteria for choosing a load in this category. Other considerations might be cost and cleanliness.

To start this off, I'm currently loading .45 ACP Minor loads using exactly the same set-up for my Mellow Major loads, except that I use a 200 grain Rainier roundnose bullet rather than a 230 grain Rainier roundnose. The charge is 4.8 grains of Bullseye (yes, Bullseye) and COAL is just what I get with my Dillon die set to load the 230 grain bullets to about 1.272 (I think the 200 grainers actually come out a little shorter than the 230). Naturally, I shoot these in Glocks, G21SF and G30 (don't have a G30SF...yet).

So how about it? Who has some favorite Minor .45 ACP loads to suggest?

[ANeat]

Loading up a 185 to 200 grainer with VV310, Clays, bullseye, titegroup or other fast powders in the 750 - 800 fps range are always accurate amd pleasent to shoot.

You could probably go down to the low 4 grain range with bullseye and the 200gr and still get 100% function

[killarbb]

i am actually gonan play around with some Titegroup, clays, and unique(maybe) to see what i can come up with for my 1911 tomorrow. i am kinda thinkin it might be fun to run it in ESP and see what happens.

[ISUSteve]

I like 4 grains of 231 under a 200gr LSWC. Enough to reliabily run the slide, but not enough to feel. They come out around 630 fps in a 5" 1911.

Accuracy - 8" steel circle at 50 yards consistantly.

[Jake]

Thread revival time.....

I'm down to 4.2 WIN 231 out of my G30 SF with an OAL of 1.23/1.21. with a 230 gr. RLN

Thinking of trying 4.0 gr.

[Gary Newport]

Thread revival time.....

I'm down to 4.2 WIN 231 out of my G30 SF with an OAL of 1.23/1.21. with a 230 gr. RLN

Thinking of trying 4.0 gr.

A couple of questions: what sort of groups are you getting with that load at 25 yards and is it shooting to POA at 25 yards (if so, with what sights)?

Okay, that was three questions! :)

[Jake]

The farthest I've shot at with that load is 17 yards. (PPC League)

Strong hand, weak hand, sitting, kneeling, prone, right hand barricade and left hand barricade.

The only shot in the 7 ring was a left hand barricade (I'm a righty).

60 rounds total.

Stock sights, using normal sight picture.
http://i34.tinypic.com/15z5cau.jpg

[ede]

4.0 titegroup and a 230 gr. moly coated bullet, it'll cycle in my g30 but not my g30SF. i need to step on it just a little bit more to make it cycle the SF

[D. Manley]

Loading up a 185 to 200 grainer with VV310, Clays, bullseye, titegroup or other fast powders in the 750 - 800 fps range are always accurate amd pleasent to shoot.

You could probably go down to the low 4 grain range with bullseye and the 200gr and still get 100% function

Currently infatuated with 185 grain MG-JHP over 4.3 grains N-310 @ 1.208 OAL & Federal 150 primers. Soft, accurate & spot-on at 25 yards with my G-21. Go down to 4.1 and it's still accurate but ejection starts getting "iffy" with stock spring.

[Joe D]

I will on occasion "play" in ESP. I use one of my Kimbers with 9 round .45 mags. Starting with 10 in the gun works pretty well.
I load either 3.0 gr of Clays or 3.5 of Titegroup with a 200 gr LSWC. Makes PF easily. Both loads run about 675 fps. They will both function in a G21 with a 12 lb spring. I use a 12 lb recoil spring and a 17 lb main spring in my Kimber.

[Jake]

Gary,
FWIW...we both just broke the 100 mark on posts in this thread.
:cheers2:

[Gary Newport]

Gary,
FWIW...we both just broke the 100 mark on posts in this thread.
:cheers2:

:thumbsup: Now, we need to work on catching up with Koski!

[Steve Koski]

Nevah!!!!

Dis one be 3k.

[VN350X10]

I experimented with N320 with a 230 gr FMJ for a minor load in a Para LDA.
Got so low that it didn't MAKE minor & the Para still ran 100% !!
Kind of neat, WATCHING the bullet go down range indoors, sort of like a big pellet, was really funny when I put it over the chrono, I think the velocity was around 515-520 fps !

uncle albert

[Gary Newport]

Nevah!!!!

Dis one be 3k.

Steve, you are the greatest! (Unfortunately, GP doesn't have a "posting queen" smiley, so this will have to do! :wink5:)