Anyone see Leupold M5 scope yet ?

[BigSlick]

I hear they have .1 turrets on em, gonna be an enhancement to the MK 4 line too for the .1 turrets.

I don't know if .1 vs .125 is gonna make a hell of a difference, but I'd like ta find some info

Of course, the M5 is part of the tacticool line up, but, I'm sure they'd take your money if you were gonna hunt varmints with it or use in on the range ;)

[creophus]

Haven't seen them Slick. I can't see the turrets making that big of a deal either. Hopefully they have a quick adjust feature, otherwise it will take all day to get 3 or 4 MOA of adjustment.

[BigSlick]

The big deal that might make is the adjustments actually match the reticle.

Reticles are mildot (millradians) and the clicks (in the past) were based on inches of MOA.

Up close, not much help, 500+ yds out, big difference unless you have mildot drop memorized and can count in 1/4 or 1/8 MOA and do some addition real fast.

Prolly cost $3000 knowing Leupold and their marketing

[CZ93X62]

Prolly cost $3000 knowing Leupold and their marketing

That would leave me out, several times over.

[BigSlick]

They're handling the whole issue like Glock.

Calling it an upgrade to the mildot reticled line up instead of correcting an obvious design flaw.

Doing a damn fine job of it too cause they're gonna get paid handsomely if initial pricing rumors are anything close to true

[Brass Nazi]

I'd giv'em $400 for one.

[Rollis]

I love Leapold have 4 of them so far, but if I'm going to pay 3 grannd for a scope it better have a computerised mount, and be able to "see" Pluto. Which by the way is not a planet.

[craig110]

For $3000 it better be able to calculate the slingshot orbit the bullet should take around Jupiter and/or Saturn to more efficiently get to Pluto as well.

Sheeze, $3000 for a rifle scope. You sink that much money in an astronomical telescope and you could be in the 10" Celestron / Meade Schmidt-Cassegrain scope or even a 16" Dobsonian style scope with all the extras. With the latter, you actually could be getting close to seeing Pluto.

[BigSlick]

$3000 is a lil sarcasm fellas, I still haven't seen actual pricing.

You would think it couldn't be much, just a turret change, but take a look at Leupold's current lineup. Just about anything worth having for serious work is well over $1500 and a lot of it over $2000.

They have some nice hunting scopes for </= $1000 but, they just don't have the horsepower to be a good target or surgical scope too. Their "premier" scopes the 7 series are all over $2000. Their long range varmint scopes (with that crap reticle) are all over $1500. There are a couple mildots in the MK I - MK IV lineups, but the MK IV they promote today ain't the same MK IV as what has been offered in the past by a long shot.

They're gettin cheaper (features) on the low end - fast, and the high end is what their mid to upper range stuff used to be at more than double the cost of their best stuff just a couple years ago.

They used to be a go to for any of my scope needs, but not any more. $2000 for a scope with less features than many competitors that are as good or better quality, no way I'm sending any business to Leupold until they put the crack pipe down.

Hell, for $1200 you can get a NightForce with all the bells and whistles. For $2000 and up, you can get a scope with front focal plane reticle, lighted, with a better vertical range, 1/8" clicks and 5" of mounting length to work with, plus 4" of eye relief and side focus/parallax to boot.

For their <$1000 stuff, you can get better magnification, at least as clear or better glass, at least as good turrets and a lifetime warranty that isn't a hassle to deal with. The Bushnell 6500 is crystal clear up to about 25x and cost ~$7-800, good knobs too.

For under $500, Luepold offerings are slim, with all kind of options from others that deliver more bang for the bucks, like Meuller or the Bushnell 4200.

[Rollis]

My most expensive Leopould was just about $600.00, 6x18, the glass seems good, but have never had the chance to stretch it past the 100 yard mark.

[creophus]

With many of these scopes you're not just paying for good glass, good finish and a good name. Now you're paying for all that plus a ruggedized housing. So many folks think they need the same stuff the military uses on their hunting rifle. When you step into that arena it's gonna cost you and cost you big.

The up side of that, is the S&B, Leupold, and Nightforce stuff really does get used by the military and special forces. If you want to pay the $$$ you can get the stuff they use, but frankly if you're not being shelled or being hit with IEDs then you'll never need a scope that rugged.

[MONTEGOD7SS]

I dare any deer to stand in front of me at 500yrd while I look at him with my cheapy Burris on top of my -06. :)

[craig110]

With many of these scopes you're not just paying for good glass, good finish and a good name.

You know, this thread has gotten me thinking. We reload to save money. (Well, supposedly save money. :43:) We cast to be good CRBs besides having lots of fun as long as we avoid being cohutted. We scrounge WWs to get extra holes punched in our CRB card. We bermine for lead. Etc., etc. Why not make our own scopes? Optics is not exactly an esoteric science and we're talking small enough pieces of glass that eyeglass lens cutting machines would be able to do the job. Anyone have access to such machines? I bet the hardest part would be the mechanism to move the reticule.

[creophus]

You know, this thread has gotten me thinking. We reload to save money. (Well, supposedly save money. :43:) We cast to be good CRBs besides having lots of fun as long as we avoid being cohutted. We scrounge WWs to get extra holes punched in our CRB card. We bermine for lead. Etc., etc. Why not make our own scopes? Optics is not exactly an esoteric science and we're talking small enough pieces of glass that eyeglass lens cutting machines would be able to do the job. Anyone have access to such machines? I bet the hardest part would be the mechanism to move the reticule.
Well, that's quite a tall order. You gonna start your own scope business?

[Rollis]

Seem's the len's would be the easy part, the coating's, tube's, and the mecanisims for adjusting it, and building it so that it can withstand the shock of recoil, plus purging of any moister, and air from the tube would make 3 grand seem cheap. It would be nice but probly not that practical.

[craig110]

... and building it so that it can withstand the shock of recoil...

Ah yes, forgot that minor detail. People who build their own telescopes don't have that problem.

[Rollis]

Other then sending the mirrow out to be coated and buying the eye pieces everything else can be made with scrap wood and fishing line.