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gokyo
04-01-2008, 01:21 AM
Over the past 5 years I have been working full time at putting togethe my gun collection. I had a few misteps but I sold those and trade up so to speak.

I have weapons in all the main categories.

10mm pistol
Shotgun
Bolt rifle precision 308
Semi auto precision 308
AK
AR
Bullpup
Old school bolt
Garand
CCW pistol
Duty pistols
Rimfire pistol
FN High Power
Rimfire Rifle
Black Powder rifle
Lever gun

I admit that I have no revolver or 1911 but I do not really want either.

Then I have my reloading and casting equipment.

So what next. Do I just shoot a lot now. I do not have any really goals anymore.

I feel kind of without purpose. What is next?

MakeMineaP99
04-01-2008, 01:22 AM
Subgun!

soundwave
04-01-2008, 01:23 AM
.50 rifle is missing :sniper:

layusn1
04-01-2008, 01:26 AM
Curios and Relics

918v
04-01-2008, 01:27 AM
Why don't you want a 1911?

BigSlick
04-01-2008, 01:42 AM
So what next. Do I just shoot a lot now. I do not have any really goals anymore.

I feel kind of without purpose. What is next?

Nice lineup.

What ya do now is open ya eyes.

You owe it to yaself ta pick up at least one 1911 an a couple a wheel guns.

You thank you got it all covered, well, you got a good spread, I a admit dat, but you missin a 1911 an some wheel guns.

You thank you don't want em now, dat mean you in a good spot, you can take a lil time ta learn about em. Then go get what is right in ya own mind.

You might not thank ya want any a dat now, but just cypher on da fact they is all da most popular guns in recorded history for a reason.

You like ta cast ? Castin take on a whole different dimension when ya shoot a wheel gun. Gettin a revolver ta shoot a teach you more about shootin than burnin up 10 cases a surplus thru any EBR or hicap wonder pistol dujour.

As far as a 1911 go, you a also learn more about guns an what make em tick when ya get into a 1911. They is da mix an match king, so you can suit yaself in just about any fashion or budget.

But, IMO, if ya gonna actually learn about shootin an loadin instead a jus buyin, da first steps is a wheel gun an a 1911.

Give it some thought an try one a both. If ya don't like em, they easy ta get ya money out of in a hurry.

But, I a bet you love em both.

After ya get a specimen a both an get into it a lil bit, you can come back here an tell me I was right.

I a be humble about it... I promise ;)

Love,

'Slick

layusn1
04-01-2008, 01:44 AM
Psst...Slick...he listed a Garand in his collection

BigSlick
04-01-2008, 01:46 AM
I saw dat an fixed it ;)

blueline541
04-01-2008, 01:52 AM
Full autos! Heroin is easier to give up than machine guns.

If not speed then silence. Cans are awesome.

gokyo
04-01-2008, 01:58 AM
I will sit for a while and think about the wheel gun and 1911.

Is having a FN highpower count for a 1911?

Why will revolvers teach me about casting?

gokyo
04-01-2008, 01:58 AM
Full autos! Heroin is easier to give up than machine guns.

If not speed then silence. Cans are awesome.

Can not do subguns or Full auto in Washington state.

Getting a can is possible but kind of hard.

layusn1
04-01-2008, 02:00 AM
I saw dat an fixed it ;)

Lol..I couldn't resist, like I said in another thread, I'm in a mood tonight.

What about custom building a wildcat benchrest rifle? Someday, when I settle down, I would be interested in getting into that...just so many more firearms to spend money on right now...not even a black powder or lever rifle here...

blueline541
04-01-2008, 02:02 AM
Never mind.

I would recommend a 1911. One of the best shooting pistols I own is an old beater nickel plated WWII Ithaca 1911.

BigSlick
04-01-2008, 02:32 AM
I will sit for a while and think about the wheel gun and 1911.

Is having a FN highpower count for a 1911?

Why will revolvers teach me about casting?

Nope.

A BHP is certainly an historic piece of classic ordinance, but a 1911 it ain't.

Casting for revolvers will teach you more about reloading, the nuts and bolts 'why' of casting and accuracy than you might imagine. If you can cast for two (or more) different revolvers and get them both to shoot accurately without leading you will be way ahead of da game for casting for any auto pistol and prolly dat Garand too. Bonus points if both revolvers are of the different caliber and mfrs. Something like maybe a old school 45 Colt an a early-mid 90's Ruger Blackhawk in .357.

The just of this is each revolver is different, each cylinder throat is (usually) different and different mfr/years of mfr are dimensionally different at times too.

Learn to cast to get any of em ta shoot an you might find you havin da most fun you ever had shootin in ya whole life. Turnin out a wad a .4525-.453+ bullets ta shoot thru a 45 ACP ain't hard ta do. Turnin out a wad a bullets dat a shoot in ya revolver wit some odd dimensions a really give ya a chance to get into da nitty gritty stuff dat a be a good foundation for all da shootin ya do. Plus, you can learn on da cheap if ya cast an size ya own.

Castin ain't just a cheap way ta get some blastin bullets, it's also da best way I know ta take da trainin wheels off an take ya loadin to da next level.

I got one gun I been workin on for almost a year, tryin ta work errythang out. What I learn wit doin dat help me make an informed decision about other thangs I run into.

I'm still learnin, an I suspect I a be learnin for years ta come.

Most fun I ever had wit reloadin/shootin in my whole life.

Cheap too ;)

MONTEGOD7SS
04-01-2008, 02:34 AM
Get ya a 1911 even if it's a cheapie Taurus or something. Also, how can any collection be complete without a .50? Get you one of those and as many pulled API rounds and you can afford and store, and you'll be setup right for the Revolución.

BigDog[RE]
04-01-2008, 07:56 AM
You need a wheelgun. If you are a reloader and don't have a wheelgun, you don't know what you are missing. Think about never having to chase brass again, or sweep it up and pick it up!

All kidding aside, the two items that you listed as not wanting are the two that belong in any collection, a 1911 and a good revolver.

creophus
04-01-2008, 08:43 AM
;14711']You need a wheelgun. If you are a reloader and don't have a wheelgun, you don't know what you are missing. Think about never having to chase brass again, or sweep it up and pick it up!

All kidding aside, the two items that you listed as not wanting are the two that belong in any collection, a 1911 and a good revolver.+1

Get a wheel gun. At least a 357 and you must have a 1911.

I have a Taurus PT1911 and I love mine.

slowride
04-01-2008, 10:13 AM
I'm not much of a 1911 man myself. I've owned a Colt I paid $700 for that couldn't make it through 100rds. without a hiccup or two; same with a Kimber I had.

You should shoot one at least, then think about it.
A good .357 mag. or .44 mag would be a good choice for something different. I prefer semi-autos, but revolvers can be fun.

chewy
04-01-2008, 01:13 PM
I vote for a the wheelie gun too. Auto can be accurate, revolvers can be incredibly accurate. Also, reloading wise too, one can pretty much stuff any kind of bullet in a revolver and it will work, LSWC, half jacketed HPs, hard casts of any shape, from super light loads (almost firecracker loudness) to super viscious flame throwin' boolit tossers. Plus, a decent wheelie won't set ya' back $money$ wise, and can be a good partner for your lever gun if it be a revolver cart. lever gun. And it's just fun to part of the cycling action in singnle action mode too.

chewy
04-01-2008, 01:31 PM
Also.......learning to shoot a revolver can only make you a better, more flexible shooter.:subgun::runlikehell:

Can't go wrong with that.

gokyo
04-01-2008, 01:51 PM
All right All right. I hear the wheel gun argument. I you had to choice a caliber of wheelie what would you pick. SUre I know 357 mag is good but is there not also : s44 mag, 44 spcl, 41 mag etc. If, and there is a strong emphasis on If, get a wheel gun I would want performance at least on par with my 10mm. Also nothing longer then a 4-5 inch barrel.

Not interested in 454 casul and the other BS boutique cartridges.

MONTEGOD7SS
04-01-2008, 01:56 PM
I personally would start out with a GP100 in .357 because everyone should have one. After getting that one all of the others will follow because revolvers are fun!

gokyo
04-01-2008, 02:01 PM
Police trade-in 686?

RugerFan58
04-01-2008, 02:15 PM
Police trade-in 686?686 is a great gun. Myself I like the 625 in .45acp because I already reload that caliber and when I tried a friends 625 it seemed like I couldn't miss the target even if I tried. I let my wife try my S&W 1911 and that was a mistake......she loved it so much she calls it HERS now.:eek:

chewy
04-01-2008, 02:39 PM
You can get a S&W 686 +, a 7 shooter, a Ruger GP-100 as mentioned, or even a Taurus 7 shooter Tracker if 357 is what you decide. 357 mag can definately be on the same stage with a 10mm.
Or...you can get a 41 magnum and surpase the 10 mm and not get too flinchy to magnum loads. If you get a revolver and change your mind, heck man, sell it to me, I love revolvers as much as any auto I own.

MakeMineaP99
04-01-2008, 05:10 PM
What about custom building a wildcat benchrest rifle? Someday, when I settle down, I would be interested in getting into that...just so many more firearms to spend money on right now...not even a black powder or lever rifle here...

That's what I'm doing, although I'm still thinking I need a subgun.

BigDog[RE]
04-01-2008, 05:55 PM
All right All right. I hear the wheel gun argument. I you had to choice a caliber of wheelie what would you pick. SUre I know 357 mag is good but is there not also : s44 mag, 44 spcl, 41 mag etc. If, and there is a strong emphasis on If, get a wheel gun I would want performance at least on par with my 10mm. Also nothing longer then a 4-5 inch barrel.

Not interested in 454 casul and the other BS boutique cartridges.

Get a S&W 29 or 629 44Mag with whatever barrel length you like or can find. I think the 44Mag round is one of the more versatile out there. You can have really light plinking round or a barnburner round. I'm sure a lot of people will tell you to get a Ruger instead of the Smith. I think its a matter of personal preference.

BigSlick
04-01-2008, 07:44 PM
All right All right. I hear the wheel gun argument. I you had to choice a caliber of wheelie what would you pick. SUre I know 357 mag is good but is there not also : s44 mag, 44 spcl, 41 mag etc.

Lots of options, lotta price range, some wheel guns sleeper diamond in da rough cheap, others insane high price.

I don't know how old you are, how much you appreciate tradition or how much a sucker you are for the classics (I'm old, prolly put way too much on tradition, an is a bonafide sucker for somethin classic, but jus love some a da new stuff too) but if you wanna buy a wheelie (and you do ;) ) first choice is to decide if ya want somethin cool wit some bells an whistles, or if ya wanna go old school an get dat rush erry time ya pick it up jus ta hold it, an caress it, and feel da love.

Common calibers is cheaper to load for (like anything else), but less common calibers are usually cheaper to purchase. .41 Mag is da red headed step child of 'Magnum' calibers. Bad timin on da introduction way back in da day, an a couple a gun rag writers jus preach doom about it. But, .41 Mag ain't nothin ta sneeze at. It great for most hunting if ya inta dat, an it deliver better power than 10mm an .357 Mag. Some .41 Special data is out there, but no brass commercially available that I am aware of. Shoot good, lotta available load data (not too much new data, so you on ya own wit dat) lotta bullets an moulds available. Plus, recoil ain't bad.

.357 Mag gonna be da cheapest, an you can load .38 Specials for it too (not ideal, but an option) an load data is errywhere, new an old, hell of a lotta bullets an brass is available all over da place cheap. Plus, it a get da job done huntin, SD or jus range time fun.

I like da .32 Mag cause it cheap, unique, an easy ta load for. Published data is all but useless, but for me, development is the fun of loadin for it. I load 8 different bullets from 5 different moulds an three mfr's in jacketed. Still ain't hardly broke da surface on all it can do.

If, and there is a strong emphasis on If, get a wheel gun I would want performance at least on par with my 10mm. Also nothing longer then a 4-5 inch barrel.

I would give a hard look at da .41 Mag first, then fall back on a .357 Mag, which ever I found a deal on. You can go new school on da .357 Mag an get FO, adjustable sights, scope rails, 7 (or more) shot cylinders, in ultra-lightweight, blue, stainless, black stainless etc.. Price from about $300 to well over $1300 +++, jus depend on what ya want.

We ain't tryin ta talk ya inta nothin dat ain't good for ya, we tryin ta help ya get deeper inta da whole loadin thang an widen ya horizons.

I used ta thank wheel guns wuz for old guys dat lack style, but now, I see what I was missin an it like shootin is all new again, still fun, still cheap (kinda), just more fun now than ever.

Can always go back to da auto anytime and I carry auto for SD (mostly) so it ain't like I just forgot about em at all.

Jus roundin out da experience.

An not havin ta chase brass is a big plus. Make it easy ta keep track a ya loadin an such. I ain't lost da first piece a brass from a wheel gun yet. Plus, you can load em way down an not worry about havin ta cycle da slide, feed properly or go inta battery. Easy shootin all da way around.

All it take is some dies an a conversion an some moulds, an brass. Already got errythang else.

Good ta go. :thumbsup:

skyflyer
04-01-2008, 10:41 PM
i love to shoot my s/w revolvers
just something about that smooth trigger

its kinda like someone who loves driving older cars
just doing it for the pure pleasure

ISUSteve
04-01-2008, 10:47 PM
I'm thinking of getting a compound bow. How much are reloading dies for arrows?

BigSlick
04-01-2008, 10:47 PM
its kinda like someone who loves driving older cars
just doing it for the pure pleasure

Ezzactly :thumbsup:

layusn1
04-01-2008, 11:46 PM
I'm thinking of getting a compound bow. How much are reloading dies for arrows?

Dies are kinda expensive but arrow tip molds aren't too bad. Freak will cast for unusual arrowhead types/weights.

blueline541
04-02-2008, 12:52 AM
Y'all have me wondering now. I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 mag I've been trying to unload for a little while. Maybe I ought to give it another try...

slowride
04-04-2008, 09:28 AM
The big positive about my compound bow is 90% of the time I can re-shoot the ammo I just fired!

Just too hard to conceal!!!

Steel Talon
04-04-2008, 09:55 AM
Wheelie calibers to have (no particular order)

.22lr
.357
.41mag (absolute must have for a handloader)
Also your collection needs a can (or two:supergrin:)

Peace
Steel Talon:coolgleamA:

creophus
04-04-2008, 10:51 AM
Y'all have me wondering now. I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 mag I've been trying to unload for a little while. Maybe I ought to give it another try...
How much you want for it? I know some people who might be interested. :supergrin:

zdogk9
04-04-2008, 11:56 AM
How much you want for it? I know some people who might be interested. :supergrin:
What the ? you doin' he starting to come around and see the light.

I cast for .38 special, .41 mag, .44 mag, .45 Colt and a .455 Webly MkIV that had the rear of the cylinder milled to accept .45 Auto in moon clips, It takes .45 Auto Rim too.The Webly wont shoot any thing but a 255 gr SWC sized at .454 any thing else keyholes but that boolit over a mild/medium load of unique makes me feel all warm and fuzzy, read Kipling, and wanna go defend the outer reaches of the Empire.
All the revolvers want a little something unique to them. My Super Blackhawk wants a different lube and powder than my 629. Same with my .45 Colts. I'm chasing the .41 around, its doing good but I KNOW that there is a combination that will take it from milk jugs at 100 yards to pop bottles at the same distance. The process of finding that combination is reloading at it's finest.

creophus
04-04-2008, 02:39 PM
What the ? you doin' he starting to come around and see the light.Trying to get a deal! :prrr: