Trimer's.

[Rollis]

Has anyone seen, used, or compared the Giurard, to the Hornady, case trimmer's? I will be buying a trimmer this week, the Giurard is about $100.00, more is it worth it now that the Hornady is out?

[MCK45ACP]

I assume you are talking about the Hornady Lock n' Load Power Case Center.
Now this is only my opinion about case trimming and not necessarily anyone elses. The way the Giraud works is the case length is controlled by the 2 angles on the cutter. One for the inside chamfer and one for the outside chamfer. With that type of cutter the angles form a sharp edge around the case mouth. This takes care of the trimming and the chamfering all in one operation and cuts the time consideribly.
It is my preferance though, to trim the case mouth parallel to the head then to chamfer the inside and outside in an other operation eliminating the sharp edge. This does add more handling time, but like I said this is my preferance. So the Hornady trimmer seems more versital and would be my choice.

[Rollis]

I went ahead, and bought the Hornady. Instead of the mail order place I, ordered it from a locle shop. It did cost more that way, but the dealer is a friend.

[BigSlick]

Got a link to the Hornady trimmer ?

I've used a PH and the Giraud, both work well. Never used (or seen) the Hornady

[Rollis]

http://www.denverdiscountmart.com/RELOADING/PRESSES/52165.html This is the cheapest I, have found. http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2009/01/18/shot-show-report-hornady-case-prep-center-in-action/ I have not cheaked this link out.

[VN350X10]

'Slick I used the Hornady recently on .308, .223 & .204 Ruger, a bud bought one & when I replace my hand cranked Forresters, it will be with a Hornady.
It's that good + a fried chicken ta boot !

For real !

uncle albert

[BigSlick]

Dayum !

That's good :supergrin:

[Rollis]

I should be home this weekend, i'm hoping it will have arived, if so I'll have about 800 .223 to test it with.

[Jerry Snyder]

I should be home this weekend, i'm hoping it will have arived, if so I'll have about 800 .223 to test it with.

Well.... if you need practice, I HAVE ABOUT 9k THAT NEEDS PROCESSING.....just kidding. Please give us a report. I really do have about 9k that needs processing....

JS

[BigSlick]

Hey JS, if ya need to borrow a Giraud, drop me a PM ;)

[Jerry Snyder]

Will do, Thanks.

I want to wait until the shooting season is winding down, Oct or Nov....

Thanks

JS

[Bultx1215]

Man, that Hornady is just what the doc ordered...ceptin the price.:jawdrop: Its pretty steep.

[Rollis]

I, luked out when I, stoped at my dealer today, he was able to get it in early. So we went ahead, and checked it out, it seemed preaty solid, everything was as it should be. When I, started to read the direction's there was one thing Hornady forgot to mition. It will only work with Hornady shell holders. So now I, get to wait till, the shell holder set comes in. Yeh.

[lcarreau]

I have never used the Hornady trimmer, but here is an old video I made off the Giurad trimming .223.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/lcarreau/th_trim.jpg (http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/lcarreau/?action=view&current=trim.flv)

[jawjaboy]

I remember that video, cup 'n all. ;)

[BigSlick]

Smooth as silk ;)

[lcarreau]

I forgot to say that it trims and chamfers at the same time. You press case down until you do not feel any movement. As you can see from the video, I did a few in 30 seconds.

-Lonnie

[Bultx1215]

Does it have a positive stop? Adjustable or is it caliber specific?

[BigSlick]

All three.

You use different collars with differnt I.D.'s and shoulder dimensions

.308 collar, .223 collar, 30-06 collar etc..

The collars are adjustable for depth (I think) .0015

But, all are set it and forget it. Collars swap out easily and quickly and settings are retained.

One trimmer, caliber sepcific collars, good to go (some combination caliber options exist).

You can trim 1000 pieces of .223 in under an hour, .308 and larger calibers take a little bit longer sometimes, but, not much.

Like Lonnie says, trim, chamfer and deburr in one step.

Run a wad of tumbled brass thru your 650/1050/LNL/whatever case feed and size/decap, a pass on the trimmer, ready to load.

Or, do it like I do, size/decap for a day or two store in a bucket.

No brass shavings all over the place, no hassle setting the depth every cutter/collar change, no hassle with aligning a pilot.

Drop a piece of brass in the hole, press, wait till you don't feel the cutter touching the case mouth and remove... repeat until you run outta brass, electricity or patience.

Easy as pie, no mess, zero hassle and the motor is hella robust. No tinker toy crap involved, quality piece of equipment all the way around.

Worth the bucks if you got regular brass chores to deal with.

Here's a list of calibers : http://www.giraudtool.com/index.html

Complete, .17K Hornet CT17KH $425.00
Complete, .17 Mach 4 CT17M4 $425.00
Complete, .17 Remington CT17R $425.00
Complete, .204 Ruger CT204 $425.00
Complete, .22 Hornet CT22H $425.00
Complete, .22K Hornet CT22KH $425.00
Complete, .22 PPC CT22PPC $425.00
Complete, .22 BR CT22BR $425.00
Complete, .218 Bee CT218 $425.00
Complete, .220 Swift CT220 $425.00
Complete, .221 Fireball CT221 $425.00
Complete, .22-250 CT225 $425.00
Complete, .22-250 Ackley Improved CT225AI $425.00
Complete, .222 Remington CT222 $425.00
Complete, .222 Remington Magnum CT222RM $425.00
Complete, .223 Remington CT223 $425.00
Complete, .223 Ackley Improved CT223AI $425.00
Complete, .243 Winchester CT243 $425.00
Complete, .243 Ackley Improved CT243AI $425.00
Complete, 6mm Remington CT6MR $425.00
Complete, 6PPC CT6PP $425.00
Complete, 6BR/6X CT6BR $425.00
Complete, 6x.250 CT625 $425.00
Complete, 6XC CT6XC $425.00
Complete, 6mm Holliger CT6HOL $425.00
Complete, 6mm AR CT6AR $425.00
Complete, 6mm HAGAR CT6HAG $425.00
Complete, .257 Roberts CT257R $425.00
Complete, .25-06 CT2506 $425.00
Complete, 6.5mm Creedmoor CT65CR $425.00
Complete, .260 Remington CT260 $425.00
Complete, 6.5 Grendel CT65G $425.00
Complete, 6.5 x .284 CT652 $425.00
Complete, 6.5x55 Swedish CT655 $425.00
Complete, 6.5x47 Lapua CT65L $425.00
Complete, 6.8SPC CT68S $425.00
Complete, .250 Savage CT250 $425.00
Complete, .270 Winchester CT270 $425.00
Complete, .280 Remington CT280 $425.00
Complete, .284 Winchester CT284 $425.00
Complete, 7-08 CT708 $425.00
Complete, 7mm Mag CT7MM $425.00
Complete, 7mm Remington Ultra Mag CT7RUM $425.00
Complete, 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag CT7RSAUM $425.00
Complete, 7mm Winchester Short Magnum CT7WSM $425.00
Complete, 7.5x55 Schmidt-Ruben CT755 $425.00
Complete, 7.62x39 CT739 $425.00
Complete, 7.62x54R CT754 $425.00
Complete, .300 Whisper (.30/.221) CT30W $425.00
Complete, .303 British CT30B $425.00
Complete, .30-30 CT303 $425.00
Complete, .30-40 Krag CT3040 $425.00
Complete .308 Winchester CT308 $425.00
Complete, .30-06 Springfield CT306 $425.00
Complete, .300 Winchester Magnum CT300 $425.00
Complete, .300 Remington Ultra Magnum CT300RUM $425.00
Complete, .300 Remington Short Action Ultra Mag CT300RSAUM $425.00
Complete, .300 Winchester Short Magnum CT300WSM $425.00
Complete, .300 Weatherby Magnum CT300WM $425.00
Complete, .30/.378 Weatherby Magnum CT30378WM $425.00
Complete, 8mm Mauser (8x57) CT857 $425.00
Complete, .338 Winchester Magnum CT338WM $425.00
Complete, .338 Remington Ultra Magnum CT338RUM $425.00
Complete .338 Lapua Magnum CT338 $425.00
Complete, .408 CheyTac CT408 $425.00
Complete, .416 Barrett CT416 $425.00
Complete, .458 SOCOM CT458 $425.00
Complete, .50BMG CT50B $425.00

You can buy one trimmer in a specific caliber and buy collars/cutters in other calibers, they ran $30 last time I bought any. All will do a 15 degree chamfer to allow for VLD bullets.

Lotta other stuff Doug makes, all top quality. First class to deal with in my experience too ;)

FWIW...

[Rollis]

Make no mistake I, really wanted the Gurade, but seeing that I, used the C.C. to buy the trimmer, and the locale dealer was abel to get it at a good, (but higher then the mail order place) price, I went ahead and bought it. As of this morning I, will set it up and give it a good once over. After I, get done looking for the cap for the septic. Note to self next time the back yard is tore up for the bulding the foundation, at lest take a picture of wear the cap is.

[Bultx1215]

Thanks, Slick. That is cool...well, they both are. Trimming is my main source of pain in the reloading process. I hate it, mainly due to substandard equipment. Price is the only thing holding me back....the desire is there at least.:dontgetit:


Dang, just had to look at the vid again. 7 in 30 seconds??!!!??? Takes me an hour to trim 100 like I do it now. Grrr.