Co-worker offered me 10,000 pounds of wheel weights.

[Anvil]

5 tons, and more when I ran out in exchange for a S&W model 29-2 6" dirty harry gun I bought out from under him from his police partner (I had the cash in pocket before he could write a check when the gun hit the auction block on the precinct lot).


I told him I'd think about it. I paid $650 total for the smith and I talked to a salvage yard last week who said they would pay .12 a pound for wheel weights. That brings his offer to $1200 for a nearly perfect 29-2.

I like the Smith but for $1200 worth of lead... BUT that price is calculated at current market inflation etc.

[Oreo]

Yea, but you gotta ask yourself... do you think that gun is going to appreicate faster then the price of lead?

If I were you I'd be hunting my ass off for another one of those exact guns. If it's anything less then $1200 buy that sucker, make the trade with your friend & don't tell him what you did. Sell off enough WW to pay for the gun you sold him & then tell him you ran out of WW & want to take him up on the offer for more.

Who knows how to pimp it for every penny it's worth huh? :ihih:

[Anvil]

The truth is he thinks he's pimping me. I'm gonna test the waters with him by offering him a model 36 he wants in exchange for 2,000 pounds of lead. I get rid of (what for me might as well be) a drop gun and get the lead goods.

[BigSlick]

Man, I would swap dat gun for da lead in a heartbeat.

Smelt it out an you can get a buck a pound for da lead, better yet keep it.

If you don't wanna do dat deal, I a let him pick out da Smith he want new for dat lead an pay shippin ta boot.

I would say da Gods is smilin on ya Anvil, don't pass it up.

29-2 a dime a dozen if ya look, compared ta luggin ww's 150 lbs a pop in a bucket.

Dat is ~ 60-65 full buckets a ww's, enough lead ta last 2-3 years

For real

[jawjaboy]

10,000 lbs.? WOW. I'd be all over it.

[Oreo]

29-2 a dime a dozen if ya look

I'm telling you man... FIND him another one of those exact guns. Find him one if you have to gnaw a fresh one out of a steel block with your teeth!!! call all the shops you can find, local & afar, search the internet, post on forums, what ever it takes. FIND that man his gun & you will make some money off that deal.

[cohutt]

yammerschooner will prolly be sitting at your doorstep- if there's 5 tons of ww in play.

Yammer, yammer, come in yammer.....

[copdills]

Thats a lot of wheel weights, Lead is our friend

[freakshow10mm]

No **** dude. I'd trade for lead. In a heartbeat.

[craig110]

5 tons, and more when I ran out in exchange for a S&W model 29-2 6" dirty harry gun I bought out from under him from his police partner (I had the cash in pocket before he could write a check when the gun hit the auction block on the precinct lot).


I told him I'd think about it. I paid $650 total for the smith and I talked to a salvage yard last week who said they would pay .12 a pound for wheel weights. That brings his offer to $1200 for a nearly perfect 29-2.

I like the Smith but for $1200 worth of lead... BUT that price is calculated at current market inflation etc.

Ok, you've thought about it, now hand him the gun!!! Don't forget to factor in that you can "run out" pretty quickly by shipping FRBs of ingots to all your GP friends at a price that easily covers you buying a replacement for the gun. You can almost view your end of the trade as merely lending it out for a while. :wink5:

[Anvil]

Smelt it out an you can get a buck a pound for da lead, better yet keep it.



For real

You think someone will pay $1 per pound for ingots?

[lcarreau]

You think someone will pay $1 per pound for ingots?

Yup.

[Crazy4nitro]

I would be all over that deal Like Donkey Kong....I really like 'Slicks Idea.
Best get on it......

'Nitro

[freakshow10mm]

You think someone will pay $1 per pound for ingots?
Ebay.com dude. Seriously. Start at 75¢/lb with a BIN at $1/lb and sell LAMF. 10K lbs in WW is serious cash on ebay. You're looking at 8-9K of clean WW alloy at a dollar a pound is a seriously nice emergency fund.

[craig110]

5 tons, and more when I ran out in exchange for a S&W model 29-2 6" dirty harry gun I bought out from under him from his police partner (I had the cash in pocket before he could write a check when the gun hit the auction block on the precinct lot).


I told him I'd think about it. I paid $650 total for the smith and I talked to a salvage yard last week who said they would pay .12 a pound for wheel weights. That brings his offer to $1200 for a nearly perfect 29-2.

I like the Smith but for $1200 worth of lead... BUT that price is calculated at current market inflation etc.

Ok, you've thought about it, now hand him the gun!!! Don't forget to factor in that you can "run out" pretty quickly by shipping FRBs of ingots to all your GP friends at a price that easily covers you buying a replacement for the gun. You can almost view your end of the trade as merely lending it out for a while. :wink5:

[ANeat]

Hell yea, like everyone else said, get the WW, sell enough to buy a couple guns and have enough lead to feed them for a loooooooong time.

Ive even seen guys getting good prices for un/smelted WW. All you would do is box them up and sell them, no smelting necessary.

Go to USPS.com and order some flat rate boxes

[Anvil]

It might be a good idea to set up a shopping cart on GP to distribute lead by the ingot.

I could have a set price per pound shipped and plus tax - that would actually be a Glockpost tribute to support the site.

What do you all think? What weights should be offered?


This may be how I'll afford a Garand like that sexy laminated beast Kidcop has pictures of.

[cohutt]

Hell yea, like everyone else said, get the WW, sell enough to buy a couple guns and have enough lead to feed them for a loooooooong time.

Ive even seen guys getting good prices for un/smelted WW. All you would do is box them up and sell them, no smelting necessary.

Go to USPS.com and order some flat rate boxes

Adam,

Who's the studdog in your avatar?






You realize that now my avatar can show up on your doorstep alive and in person. Better lock the door.

:supergrin:

[MullahElRon]

Whatever Lola wants...

[ANeat]

Adam,

Who's the studdog in your avatar?






You realize that now my avatar can show up on your doorstep alive and in person. Better lock the door.

:supergrin:

Yep I thought I might as well.........

As for locking the door, im not sure if that would help, I think she could just lean into it a bit and bust it down:yesnod:

[ANeat]

It might be a good idea to set up a shopping cart on GP to distribute lead by the ingot.

I could have a set price per pound shipped and plus tax - that would actually be a Glockpost tribute to support the site.

What do you all think? What weights should be offered?


This may be how I'll afford a Garand like that sexy laminated beast Kidcop has pictures of.


Anvil if you go that route Ill dig thru my stuff, I think I still have a few of some 4 to 5 lb ingot molds.

Pouring 10000 1 lb ingots would suck

2000 5 pounders would suck less :coolgleamA:

[Anvil]

Anvil if you go that route Ill dig thru my stuff, I think I still have a few of some 4 to 5 lb ingot molds.

Pouring 10000 1 lb ingots would suck

2000 5 pounders would suck less :coolgleamA:

I've got 6 10 pound ingot moulds but will they fit in a normal casting pot?

[zdogk9]

I told him I'd think about it.

Nuff of this thinkin' crap! Time for action. I'd be on that like ugly on Rosie. The best I can do around here is $45 a bucket $0.50 a pound+- You can get that easy on eBay + shipping. You can get enough outta them WWs to buy THE Dirty Harry Smith it's self.

[ANeat]

I've got 6 10 pound ingot moulds but will they fit in a normal casting pot?


It depends on the dimensions really. I had some 10 pounders I made up for Yammer, i really didnt care for putting a 10 pound ingot in (RCBS 20+pound pot)

First I really didnt like running that pot down that low before filling it up. You had to make sure you had the room. Putting a 10lb ingot in a pot thats only 9 pounds low can get exciting:yikes:

The other thing is it does tend to cool off the whole pot a bit more, even if you pre-heat the ingots.

Im sure if Yammer wanted a bunch of the lead he would be happy just to get the raw WW. He would be my first choice if youre looking to sell any. That machine he's got needs it:yesnod:

[MakeMineaP99]

Damn, I'm going to have to put my photo up.

Cohutt, I'll weld the door shut, that should hold her.

[Anvil]

Im sure if Yammer wanted a bunch of the lead he would be happy just to get the raw WW. He would be my first choice if youre looking to sell any. That machine he's got needs it:yesnod:

Yeah, I forgot he has that obscene ballisti-cast monstrosity.

I've already got 400 pounds of ingots lying around in long rectangular brick shapes that was designed for the Magma Masterpot.

I'd probably be better off shipping muffin tin ingots. What are those? 3 pounds? I really don't know what I'm doing here.... I'm a smelting fool but I've never cast anything... not yet anyway.

[fredj338]

WOW, tough call. Older M29s in good shape are getting tougher to find nowdays. Then again, you could melt the WW down & sell ingots for 50c-$1/# & make enough to buy another one & have 5K# of WW left to shoot in it.:thumbsup: FWIW, I make my ingots inb a 3x5 mold about 33/4" thick. This yields an ingot about 3 1/2#. Seems just about right for adding to a 20# pot & still keep casting. At 50c/#, I'ld but 500#.

[cohutt]

Yeah, I forgot he has that obscene ballisti-cast monstrosity.


I've already got 400 pounds of ingots lying around in long rectangular brick shapes that was designed for the Magma Masterpot.

I'd probably be better off shipping muffin tin ingots. What are those? 3 pounds? I really don't know what I'm doing here.... I'm a smelting fool but I've never cast anything... not yet anyway.

The full sized ones go about 2 lbs max i think. Seems like they's weigh more but dey don't

[Anvil]

10 pound ingot moulds my ass! I went and got a postal scale and started weighing my ingots. Most of them come in around 6-9 pounds. Oh well. It's not the mould that matters.. it's the lead.

[ANeat]

I never cared for the muffin ingots, there a pain to stack.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h165/aneat/Lead/ton.jpg

[creekwalker]

Anvil,

If your deal works out let me know, I'll take a day or so off and drive over to help you smelt down the ww's. Might even offer to buy some ingonts from you afterwards.
cw

[Anvil]

I took the night off to be with my family... burnt a vacation day and we got take out from Grisanti's and Colletas (high end itallian) and had a spagetti comparison dinner. That was very relaxing!

I called my co-worker up and accepted his offer. He was really excited to get rid of all his wheel weights for a nearly perfect 29-2 Smith 44.

The funny thing to me is I sold the old cokebottle grips off the gun for $150 and picked up some 80's vintage 29 grips for $50.

I keep making money off this one gun!

[yammerschooner]

Damn. Just Damn.

As the gents have said, that lead has a lot more promise than the gun.

Your best bet on turning that lead into several guns is to put it on ebay. I don't know what way I am heading with lead acquisition (considering foundry), but I do know that smelting is beginning to lose a little of its lustre for the bit I have run through lately. In addition, I am a hell of a lot cheaper bastard than any of those fellas on Ebay.

That said, you should make no mistake that if you were looking to get rid of excess at tire shop prices I would have someone at your door straight away with butts and beer to boot. Memphis is well within my pickup zone.

If I were you (and chose the lead route) I would opt for a second smelting setup so that one is melting while you are draining the other.

Damn Anvil. Even if you don't have molds yet, you should stockpile at these prices. Lead won't be this accessible forever.


ETA: Glad to see you took the deal.

[Anvil]

Anvil,

If your deal works out let me know, I'll take a day or so off and drive over to help you smelt down the ww's. Might even offer to buy some ingonts from you afterwards.
cw

I accept! If this guy actually comes through with the lead I'll send you home with a belly full of steak and generous lead wages.

[BigSlick]

Hey Anvil,

I cruised da largest gunshow in da world today for 8hrs non stop.

I saw all kinda 29's in every imagineable configuration. Word is ammo is so expensive, folks is gettin rid of em. I say I saw (no kiddin) over 40 of em. Most priced in da $550-650 range, couple wit some pedigree up around $1100.

In short, dat gun ain't hard ta find, an it still available right damn now for about what you paid when you bought it.

Get dat lead.

For real.

[Anvil]

BS, forget the 29! Did you see any sweet Garands? I'm itching to get a shooter and put a laminated stock on it.

[Anvil]

To sell them on Ebay I'll need to cast them in ingots that will fit in a Lee 20 pound pot.

Whats the best ingot mould for that?

[BigSlick]

A whole lotta Garands.

Prolly 3-400.

Lotta nice ones.

Prices runnin from about $800 an up ta over $2500 for da ones I looked at.

Lotta parts, lotta other stuff, slings, cleanin kits, tools etc, all sky high in price from what I saw.

[yammerschooner]

To sell them on Ebay I'll need to cast them in ingots that will fit in a Lee 20 pound pot.

Whats the best ingot mould for that?

(mine are homemade or hijacked)
either a 7 inch long angle iron or aluminum muffin tins.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i54/yammerschooner/ingotmolds.jpg

[yammerschooner]

If you make them like the above, don't fill them all the way up. You will spill less lead while filling them and they wont drop the 20 lb pot temp much.

[layusn1]

So is that like 7500 pounds of lead after you smelt it and get the clips and misc. other ****e outta tha mix?

[freakshow10mm]

Maybe closer to 8K. WW is about 15-20% scrap. I've had batches as little as 10 and as high as 30. Yes I keep track.

[yammerschooner]

depending on the weights and presorting it could be as much as 8k.

[yammerschooner]

funny, I keep track too.

[ANeat]

It would probably be worth it for ya to make a few of these. If you and Creek get 2 burners going you wont want to stop while the ingots cool.

I can fit 3 in a Lee 20 pound pot.

If angle is available ones like Yammer showed work well also

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h165/aneat/Lead/Smelt3.jpg

[ANeat]

I keep track as well. Mine have stayed around 15%. That alum pot in the above pic will usually get heaping full of clips. Weigh all the ingots, weigh all the clips

[yammerschooner]

Where did you get that ladle Adam?

[Anvil]

I talked to him tonight, we agreed we would measure it out by volume so I'll fudge by 15% or so to accomodate for the clips and dross.

Adam, do you need some bigger ingot moulds? I've got some 10 pounders with long handles from Magma Engineering that cast around 8 pounds if you want to trade a few moulds. If you don't need mine would you consider loaning me a couple of 6 bangers? Or what would you charge for making me some 6 bangers like in your photo?

If you want to trade how about 4 of these?
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k154/bhpmarkiii/2ingots.jpg

[layusn1]

Maybe closer to 8K. WW is about 15-20% scrap. I've had batches as little as 10 and as high as 30. Yes I keep track.

Just sayin you need to take that into consideration when predicting your ritches...that could be a $1000-$2000 difference in the bottom line.

OR...How many of the WWs are the stick on kind that need to be sold to BP guys or mixed with your stuff to harden...lots of variables.

Then again, if this really IS the last year of lead WWs...might want to do it anyway.

[ANeat]

Where did you get that ladle Adam?


I actually found that ladle at an antique store for $10.00 a few years ago.

I gots this mucho better, bottom pour ladle now made from the finest Georgian stainless steel that holds about 10 pounds, its nice to dip, pour 2 ingots, repeat.

The one in the pic does about 1.5 ingots

Anvil Im sure we can do something to get you some ingot molds. My source for material to make them has dried up for now but I dont have any problem with you borrowing what I have if needed.
I dont need the Magma molds, You might trade Yammer, he has the pot that can handle those, he has some smaller molds he might trade.

Dont hurt to ask.

[MakeMineaP99]

Gents,

I have some "C" channel (I think C4) in the basement and maybe some plate. Is that of value to make moulds? If so, I'll send it to whoever wants it.

[yammerschooner]

My big ingot molds are in Hot Springs, but I would be willing to loan out the ones I have up here if you cover shipping. I don't know if it is worth it to you to ship, since I'll want them back, but the offer is there. You could probably return them to my folks at the MIM BBQ fest, depending on when you and creek plan to smelt.

Adam: bottom pour ladle? I saw pictures of the bells Jawja had, but didn't realize it could be a bottom pour setup.

[Anvil]

Just sayin you need to take that into consideration when predicting your ritches...that could be a $1000-$2000 difference in the bottom line.

OR...How many of the WWs are the stick on kind that need to be sold to BP guys or mixed with your stuff to harden...lots of variables.

Then again, if this really IS the last year of lead WWs...might want to do it anyway.

Variables or not, ebay is selling lead ingots for $1 per pound plus shipping.That puts me at somewhere between $8,000 to $10,000 for a used 29-2 Smith 44 mag.

Even if I only got 4,000 good pounds of lead, that's still a GOB of money! 1 fifty pound FRB on ebay at a time.

[Anvil]

My big ingot molds are in Hot Springs, but I would be willing to loan out the ones I have up here if you cover shipping. I don't know if it is worth it to you to ship, since I'll want them back, but the offer is there. You could probably return them to my folks at the MIM BBQ fest, depending on when you and creek plan to smelt.

Adam: bottom pour ladle? I saw pictures of the bells Jawja had, but didn't realize it could be a bottom pour setup.

Here's a pic of mine.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k154/bhpmarkiii/rowell4.jpg

[jawjaboy]

Adam: bottom pour ladle? I saw pictures of the bells Jawja had, but didn't realize it could be a bottom pour setup.

Adam be talkin about one he crafted from a lil dab a stainless material that we traded out on. Come to think of it, I don't remember if we ever saw a pic of it or not. :confused:

My bottom pour.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g194/jawjaboy/IM000495.jpg

Adams ladle bowl at an early age. He fed it vitamins, made it grow up quick 'n strong.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g194/jawjaboy/IM000506.jpg

[ANeat]

Adam be talkin about one he crafted from a lil dab a stainless material that we traded out on. Come to think of it, I don't remember if we ever saw a pic of it or not. :confused:

I did put some pics up before but here it is again.....



http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h165/aneat/Lead/dipper2.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h165/aneat/Lead/dipper1.jpg

[jawjaboy]

Ahhh. Sorry A. I do remember now. :thumbsup:

[Anvil]

Gents,

I have some "C" channel (I think C4) in the basement and maybe some plate. Is that of value to make moulds? If so, I'll send it to whoever wants it.

I think I'm gonna go with angle iron moulds and make triangular ingots to fit the post office FRB.

Thanks P99!

[AlPackin]

We need pics! 10K lb of WW must be a dumpster full. Could be a one time score CRB record I would guess. You become a legend Anvil :thumbsup:

[MakeMineaP99]

I think I'm gonna go with angle iron moulds and make triangular ingots to fit the post office FRB.

Thanks P99!

I'll PM you. Let me snap a pic and make sure it's something you can use.

[Anvil]

We need pics! 10K lb of WW must be a dumpster full. Could be a one time score CRB record I would guess. You become a legend Anvil :thumbsup:

My wife is might wise. She says the guy THINKS it's a WHOLE LOT of ww and by his mississippi "reconning" he'd say it's bout round 10,000. Or in southern parlance "A whole mess of wheel weights."

That could be 4,000 pounds or 20,000 pounds.

If it's 20,000 that will be enough to start my own ammunition company from scratch.

[Oreo]

Better bust out your powder scale & weigh every bit of them ww just to make sure you're getting a full 10,000.0000 lbs!

[yammerschooner]

:wink5:I don't think you are on my christmas card list yet anvil. Send me your address.

[Glooooock]

Casting little ingots is one thing . Hacking up a 1000 pound chunk with portable band saws / acetylene torches , wearing shorts and flip -flops is another .

Not that I ever did anything like that.