Dillon Super Swage or RCBS Primer Pocket Swager Combo?

[cpaspr]

As stated. Which should I get?

Pros? Cons?

[gokyo]

I only know the Dillon. Mine is great. You can really crank out a lot of cases through it. I like that it does not remove any brass.

it is a little awkward at first to use but you figure out a rhythm and then it gets pretty fast.

Please take all the above with a grain of salt. I have never used anything else accept the cutter on the end of the mini screwdriver set up, (that sucks by the way).

[cohutt]

I had the pocket swager first and bent the swaging rod a couple times. RCBS was kind enough to replace it both times but it is now in a box someplace while the Dillon is on the bench

[Blackdog]

I also had the RCBS and moved on to the Dillon. It's worth the additional moolah.

[BigSlick]

Dillon all the way.

Running the RCBS will get it done, but the manual part of it is labor intensive and somewhat of a PITA.

Dillon is smooth as silk, and make swaging as painless as it can be when done manually.

The Dillon is simple to adjust for different crimps and handles all easily - even the RORG 3 point crimps which can be seriously hard to deal with.

[D. Manley]

Dillon for me.

[Jerry Snyder]

I just swagged a whole bunch this week, 3K and I am glad I had something with some beef to it.

I took the green #6 ball off the reloading handle and slipped on the swagger for a treat....

JS

[cohutt]

Jerry I did that as well; those billiard balls make it all nice and comfy

[cpaspr]

Well, poop.

I'm on a budget here, and right now, I can afford the RCBS unit. The Dillon, not so much at present. Those that are available on evil-Bay are being sold for nearly new prices.

It sounds like the RCBS units are okay and will work, just not as nice as the Dillon. Am I reading that right?

[BigSlick]

Almost.

The RCBS will work, with some extra work on your part, but, they aren't as simple to adjust or swap to large or small primers and provide little support inside the brass (some calibers).

With your statement about used Dillon's selling for almost as much as new, you might want to pick up a new Dillon, use it, then sell it off :dunno:

But, the RCBS will definitely work, just don't get in any hurry and bring a load of patience with you ;)

There are others out there, Wilson makes one, as does CH Tool and die. Wilson makes a mandrel (of sorts) to allow crimp removal with their trimmer. Also very slow going, but it does work

http://www.lewilson.com/primerpocketreamer.html

http://www.ch4d.com/catalog/?p=57

One of these might be an option for you ...

[craig110]

How many pieces of brass do you need to decrimp and how many additional pieces will you be getting over time? If you already have a big enough pile that if you decrimped them all then you could ignore any additional brass for a while then you can try to do what I did: I found a fellow GPer who would buy my Super Swage when I was done using it. Essentially I rented it for a while and the other person got a nearly-new Super Swage at a nice price, albeit at the downside of not knowing exactly when I'd be shipping it to him. It worked well for both of us.

[cpaspr]

How many pieces of brass do you need to decrimp and how many additional pieces will you be getting over time? <snip>

A 3# coffee can full of .30-06, and probably double that of .223/5.56. And maybe a hundred .30 Carbine.

[speedracer211]

I bought the superswage before I ever needed it. Only because it was brand new in the box for $65. Found it in a little rinky dink gunsmiths shop stuffed in the corner. The thing works great.

[Blackdog]

The trouble I had with the RCBS is that brass would wedge on the anvil and I'd have to really reef on the handle to free it. I little graphite powder helped, but required frequent application. IIRC, the RCBS was just shy of $50. The Dillon is $100. I figure I've made up the $50 difference in time savings and aggravation several times over.

[Rollis]

Bought my Dillon back when it was only $65.00, it sits on the corner of the prep bench and is as needed. Bite the bullet now before the price goes even higher.

[BigSlick]

Yep, January price increase coming soon.

[Murphy's Law]

I have the Dillon and love it. I can go through a bunch of brass in no time at all without a hitch. For the price it's a great deal IMHO.

[Timberwolf]

Dillon all the way.

I had the RCBS unit and it was a PITA to use.

[XSubSailor]

I have the RCBS swaging die and have bent a couple rods...there's a seller on eBay selling HSS rods

http://cgi.ebay.com/RCBS-swager-rod-high-strength-primer-crimp-removal-rods-/110622788713?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c1a1cc69

Anyone tried these yet? comments?

[Timberwolf]

I have the RCBS swaging die and have bent a couple rods...there's a seller on eBay selling HSS rods

http://cgi.ebay.com/RCBS-swager-rod-high-strength-primer-crimp-removal-rods-/110622788713?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c1a1cc69

Anyone tried these yet? comments?

They are just replacement support rods.

If you are bending the support rod, then you haven't adjusted it right. ReRead the directions and set the tool up properly.

[davestarbuck]

I have both, and I only use the Dillon now. The RCBS worked fine when I was loading 100-200 at a time, but now I'm feeding 5 AR-15's.

-dave