The Ultimate Brass Sorter

[BigSlick]

Not perfect, but it sure looks like it would save some time

http://www.ultimatesorter.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULHrPIdlWxY&feature=related

[gokyo]

What happened to the design that had 2 counter rotating rollers that where very close to parallel but had a slight widening.

That looked prety close to perfect to me.

[Shadowdog500]

Looks good but those pans with the slots work pretty good for probably a lot less money.

Chris

[howlnmad]

Wow, my grandson works for a lot less than the cost of one of those.

[BigSlick]

Wow, my grandson works for a lot less than the cost of one of those.

:animlol:

Best brass sorter in the world too I bet ;)

The price is kind of steep for individual use, but for a range, something like this might make sense - if it were built better and didn't make so much racket

[Glooooock]

When it pulls apart 9 mm from .40s from .45s and keep the .40 and .357 sigs separate . I will be impressed . Sounds like an orbital sander drives it .

Good unit . nice work .

[VN350X10]

I build vibratory equipment for a living, for the last 30+ years. It DOESN'T have to be that noisy, they just did it cheap ! There are ways to kill the "buzz" of the thing.
I had one of the multi-roller machines, made some changes in it, slowed it down a tad from the mfgr's. speed & was able to get about 95% seperation of 9mm & .380 brass !
This thing has all of the normal problems; 38, 357, 10MM, 40 & 357SiG need a machine that will seperate by length, & you are still going to end up hand seperating the SiG & 40 unless you get into a REAL fancy optical setup.
Wouldn't have the problem IF 38 & 357 actually had rim diameters that were really to SAAMI spec, but everybody makes them undersize to save money on material; The .009" difference between them & the 40/10MM family can be seperated by diameter. There's only .006" difference between 9 & 380 & I seperated them quite well.This on my multi-roller machine. Mine was made by "Ben's Machines" & they offered a height machine that did 357, 38 10MM & 40/SiG using 4 electric eyes & trap doors, worked slick.
Too bad old Ben got sick & quit the business, his multi-roller machine was better made than the one from Scharch; The Scharch machine works just as well, but for more $$$$$.

uncle albert

[gokyo]

I had one of the multi-roller machines, made some changes in it, slowed it down a tad from the mfgr's. speed & was able to get about 95% seperation of 9mm & .380 brass !


uncle albert

was there not a video for the multi roller sorter....? Could you please post a link. Seems like the roller set up might be a possible DIY project.

[RustyFN]

Post #26, the sorter is homemade.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1292973&highlight=brass+sorter&page=2

[VN350X10]

Thanks Rusty, I couldn't remember who had built that one.

This getting old crap is starting to get OLD !!


uncle albert

[Jeff_in_NJ]

Hi,

I am the designer of the sorter discussed here. I appreciate everyone taking a look and the comments posted.

It's definitely not for the casual shooter or the commercial reloader sorting several drums a day, but it fills the huge gap between the excellent shell sorter trays and the $12,000.00 commercial sorters.

Feedback from customers has been entirely positive.

The Model 1 commented on here does use a sander motor. I was trying to build something that was affordable for individuals, and this is an inexpensive way to supply a motor, case and counterweight. I have customers sorting 3 - 4 buckets a day with no issues.

I now offer a second model using a heavy duty, continuous rated commercial vibrating motor for those requiring a more robust solution.

The size was also determined by several factors including casual usage and storage concerns. Size/length determines how many diameters can be sorted reliably. I now have extra trays available that will separate the 380s and 223s from the 9MMs. I will very shortly have a tray to separate the 40s from the 38/357s.

I am working on reducing the noise level, but I also considered that ours is not the quietest of sports :biggrin: and wearing hearing protection is a good idea.

I think BigSlick sums it up best in his opening post. If you sort a lot of brass, even a bucket a week, this machine will do the bulk of the heavy sorting.

Thanks again for looking. I welcome any comments or suggestions.

Jeff

[craig110]

Hey Jeff, welcome to GP! I hope you stick around for more than just feedback on the sorter.

[gjk5]

that's pretty nice!

I am cheap, I use a copier paper boxtop, flip it over, shake asst brass and most goes open end up, I can tell real quick by mouth size which are which. I sort by caliber and then stash, tumble when needed (or bored) and sort by headstamp and inspect.

[VN350X10]

Jeff,
Welcome !

Good luck on getting the 40/10 & the 38/357 to seperate. It's no fault of any of the machines, but rather the fact that NOBODY amongst the mfgr's. actually makes the rim diameter of the 38 family brass to SAAMI spec.!
I ran into this problem with the commercial machine I had, after being sucessful in getting about 98% seperation of 380 from 9mm; I ended up with a very few 380's in the 9 bucket but no 9mm in the 380 bucket.
Every pc. of 38/357 I ever checked came up on the smallest side of the acceptable spec, to save material, no doubt. It would add up in a few million cases !
But this left it so close to the 40/10MM size spec that I couldn't get it seperated.
It's not lilke I don't understand the idea, I've been building commercial vibratory equipment for over 30 yrs.
go here: www.generalkinematics.com (http://www.generalkinematics.com)

uncle albert

[Rollis]

I, do enjoy when builders, machinest, and, desinger's, are on here discusing prodject's. I, might not understand the deep tecnicale details, but it still is nice.