Looks like Ruger went wild...

[BigSlick]

SR40C

1911

.357 bolt gun in stainless

Anyone bought into any of these yet ?

I'm liking the idea of all three

[creophus]

I haven't bought one, but I know BoltNut is drooling over them. I've read about them, but have yet to handle a single one.

[BoltNut]

I'm still working on the bride for permission. :-/

[Frostback]

You forgot this one 'Slick:

http://www.glockpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13810

Frosty

[helitack32f1]

Don't forget the Single Ten! I want one. Also, they just announced they are selling their own line of pepper spray now. Including an alarm AND a strobe light!:mf_w00t2:

[creekwalker]

Ruger has stepped up to the plate and hammered the ball Slick. I've already looked at the SR40C and am impressed. For myself I'll go with one in 9mm and I am on the waithing list at my gunshop for one of the Ruger 1911's. You should see the different model's of the 10/22 that are out now, wow. Good marketing, great product and fair prices as well.

[BoltNut]

...great product and fair prices as well...
:winner: That has been my biggest kudos for them...they coulda just built a great gun(s) and asked the more expensive price, but they haven't yet. Impressive...

[nitesite]

Haven't held their 1911 (yet) but it's a very strong contender in an already oversaturated market. I'd buy one sight unseen, I'm that confident in it. Their M77 rifles have offered hunters some amazing variety from which to choose, too bad their triggers were such crap for the last 30 years. Now Ruger is shipping with vastly improved triggers in their centerfire rifles and good guns just became much better guns.

I was in a gun store Wednesday morning and saw an uber-tactical AR15 with quad rails and all kind of cool blackness to it. Then I realized that all along I was looking at a 10/22 ........

[BoltNut]

That's like those Archangel conversions...crazy! I love the M77 too, and missed an owesome one my big brother offered me years ago when I was too poor to do anything about it. :-/

[creophus]

Yall like that Ruger M77 platform better than the Savage 110/10 platform??

[nitesite]

Creo,

I like that the M77 line offers vastly more calibers and stock options, as well as lengths and weights and sights, than practically any other rifle manufacturer. And the integral scope mounts on the receiver are a good feature. Their bolts are one piece which I appreciate and I love controlled round feed in a rifle, too! I don't hunt dangerous game but controlled round feed would be one feature upon which I would insist. If there is a non-positive I guess it might be their spotty reputation for making good barrels.

Now, the Savage is a damn fine American Made rifle and one I would be very proud to own. You know about their inherent accuracy potential right out of the box, and they pioneered better factory triggers with the hugely successful Accu-Trigger. Another plus, which I know you're aware of, is the relative ease of swapping barrels for caliber changes or replacing worn out barrels.

Wait, were you asking me or BN??????

[creekwalker]

I've owned a M77 in 30/06 and .308 before and still own a M77/22. While there's much I like about Ruger I'm just not as thrilled by the M77 line. In bolt action rifle's I prefer the M700 and Savage as well as the CZ line. This is only my personal preference from past experence's when I was using bolt gun's a lot.

[creophus]

Just asking whoever wanted to respond. Not trying to hijack the thread though.

[Boge]

I saw one of the new limited .45 Colt/.45 ACP (two cylinders) stainless Blackhawks today built on the medium frame. A local range owner bought two (only 500 made) from Lipsey's. It's the same gun as the .44 Spcl. but this one had faux ivory grips. He loves it.

IMO, Ruger has surpassed everyone manufacturing revolvers. The LCR is a jewel with a trigger that a J Frame can only dream of. When they brought back the medium frame SA guns they finally culminated a dream. I cannot say enough good about their .44 Spcl. other than it is perfect.

S&W has become a follower and not a leader. They copied Glock and now they copy Ruger with polymer revolvers. I really think S&W's best years are behind her. However, I really wish Ruger would have let alone the snakepit that is modern 1911 production where every range Gomer wants Wilson quality for Taurus prices.

[creophus]

Boge,

S&W has certainly been doing some following lately, but the company has a history of that. They seem to jump on whatever trend is hot. On a few occasions they'll even pioneer something (40 s&w, 500s&w).

Ruger has come out with some nice stuff these past few years and they've improved upon, or didn't make worse some classic designs (mark iii). I still contend their LCP is a P3AT with a slide stop. I don't blame Ruger for jumping on the 1911 platform badwagon. It is the 100th anniversary of the design and all.

Ruger is still one of the only companies that have an offering for all types of firearms. I like that. To compare Ruger to S&W is like the Ford vs. Chevy debate. Just a matter of preference.

As for me, I'd like to get my hands on as many offerings from Ruger, S&W, etc as I can. :)

[creekwalker]

No doubt about it, Ruger is a step or two ahead of S&W right now and as a long time S&W snob that kind of hurt's.
Creophus, there's little doubt to me that Ruger cloned the P3AT and PF9 with their LCP and LC9;however, the LCP and LC9 are better finished with better comestics as well. A friend described the Ruger LCP to me as being a 5th generation KelTec, I can go with that.

[nitesite]

Ruger is still one of the only companies that have an offering for all types of firearms. I like that. :)

Excellent point, AJ~

Rimfire revolvers (SA/DA), pistols (incl Competition grade) and rifles (bolt and semi)
Centerfire revolvers, both SA and DA
Centerfire Pistols
Bolt rifles
Semi-auto rifles (including a very nice piston AR)
Single Shot rifles
Shotguns

I mean, there's GOT to be something in their lineup that each and every gun enthusiast would want at least one of!

[BoltNut]

...I want them all...

[creophus]

No doubt about it, Ruger is a step or two ahead of S&W right now and as a long time S&W snob that kind of hurt's.
Creophus, there's little doubt to me that Ruger cloned the P3AT and PF9 with their LCP and LC9;however, the LCP and LC9 are better finished with better comestics as well. A friend described the Ruger LCP to me as being a 5th generation KelTec, I can go with that.

A 5th gen KelTec, that sums it up nicely! The LCR is a true stand out design.

S&W still does what it does quite well.

Excellent point, AJ~

Rimfire revolvers (SA/DA), pistols (incl Competition grade) and rifles (bolt and semi)
Centerfire revolvers, both SA and DA
Centerfire Pistols
Bolt rifles
Semi-auto rifles (including a very nice piston AR)
Single Shot rifles
Shotguns

I mean, there's GOT to be something in their lineup that each and every gun enthusiast would want at least one of!
Yep, I have lots of their products and they serve me quite well. Probably more Rugers in the stable and any other brand...not really sure.

...I want them all...
Yeah, we know! :cheezy:

[nitesite]

Wanna venture a guess that they'll release some sort of a .50-cal Browning rifle someday in the near future? Or at least an AR upper chambered for it?

Kidding. I kid..... that would be a disaster in the works. I was just pondering for a moment about what they haven't offered yet, and it seemed sexier than a 4+1 pump 12-guage shotgun.

[creophus]

You might be on to something there!

[helitack32f1]

A 5th gen KelTec, that sums it up nicely!

This is the way I look at it. Some guy at Ruger wanted a quality micro .380 auto, made in America. He watched Kel-Tec play with and sell their prototype-quality pistols through 4 or so generations, while waiting for a decent production, quality looking version to come out. When he realized that Kel-Tec was incapable of creating a finely finished product he said "Screw it! I'm gonna have to make this myself!" and created the LCP.

[BoltNut]

...When he realized that Kel-Tec was incapable of creating a finely finished product he said "Screw it! I'm gonna have to make this myself!" and created the LCP...
:wavetowel2: :roflmao:

[creophus]

This is the way I look at it. Some guy at Ruger wanted a quality micro .380 auto, made in America. He watched Kel-Tec play with and sell their prototype-quality pistols through 4 or so generations, while waiting for a decent production, quality looking version to come out. When he realized that Kel-Tec was incapable of creating a finely finished product he said "Screw it! I'm gonna have to make this myself!" and created the LCP.
Right, copyright infringement be darned!

[helitack32f1]

I suspect if there was ever any copyright infringement, we would have heard about it by now.

If there ever was a lawsuit about it, I believe every Kel-Tec P3At owner would be carrying a copy of the lawsuit around to show everyone and their dog that, "See, Ruger copied my little gun!" "I knew it! I knew it! I knew It!." And finally, they would once again be able to sleep at night, the migraines would go away and the uncontrollable shaking would stop.:grin:

And besides, a P3AT is just a fourth generation Grendel P12. With half the bugs worked out.

[creophus]

I suspect if there was ever any copyright infringement, we would have heard about it by now.

If there ever was a lawsuit about it, I believe every Kel-Tec P3At owner would be carrying a copy of the lawsuit around to show everyone and their dog that, "See, Ruger copied my little gun!" "I knew it! I knew it! I knew It!." And finally, they would once again be able to sleep at night, the migraines would go away and the uncontrollable shaking would stop.:grin:

And besides, a P3AT is just a fourth generation Grendel P12. With half the bugs worked out.
I'll bet you'll say the same thing when Ruger comes out with a polymer shotgun that feeds from two magazines! :mf_toff:

[helitack32f1]

Last I saw, Kel-Tec hasn't come out with a polymer shotgun that feeds from two magazines yet. They are too busy fixing easy to miss things like forgetting that a trigger needs to reset when you shoot the thing and people don't like smashing their fingers while using a fire arm. I am sure they will figure it all out soon enough, I hear it is their first priority after making new barrels for the PMR-30 for those picky customers who insist on having stabilized bullets exit the barrel.

Somewhere there is a lone Ruger engineer running out of patience for those two guns and will have to perfect them and build quality versions for himself.

[creophus]

Ruger was smart enough to copy a good design...or two. Other companies have been doing it for years.

Look, you can hate on Kel-Tec all you want, but I've purchased the P3AT and the LCP, what you do with your money is your business. To hate one and love the other just doesn't make sense to me when they are so similar.

Back to the spirit of this thread... Ruger's come out with a lot of new and new for them guns lately and personally I think that's good for the industry. I'll probably add as many of their products to my collection as money will allow.

[Boge]

...I hear it is their first priority after making new barrels for the PMR-30 for those picky customers who insist on having stabilized bullets exit the barrel...


Just read that they are contemplating changing the ROT from 1 in 16" to 1 in 11" I believe to alleviate this.


If the Keltec assault shotgun plan tanks Ruger would be foolish not to snag it & improve it. :grin: Nothing wrong with that. I didn't invent lovemaking either but I implement patent "infringement" every chance I can. :wavetowel2:

[helitack32f1]

Ruger was smart enough to copy a good design...or two. Other companies have been doing it for years.

Look, you can hate on Kel-Tec all you want, but I've purchased the P3AT and the LCP, what you do with your money is your business. To hate one and love the other just doesn't make sense to me when they are so similar.

Back to the spirit of this thread... Ruger's come out with a lot of new and new for them guns lately and personally I think that's good for the industry. I'll probably add as many of their products to my collection as money will allow.

Hating on a gun company and hating on a gun are two different things. You are making my point for me when you state: "Ruger was smart enough to copy a good design...or two. Other companies have been doing it for years."

Actually, I have two points.
1. If what you say is true, then why does every Kel tec owner feel the need to continually harp on the LCP as being a copy? This doesn't happen when anyone talks about striker fired guns, almost all of which are extremely similar to Glocks. It doesn't happen when yet another company produces a 1911. So why does it continue with the LCP.

2. I personally have never seen the LCP as a copy. It is different in nearly every dimension, looks a hundred times better, doesn't have that big piece of metal screwed onto the side of the slide (Extractor spring), has a slide lock. Oh, and it fires every time I pull the trigger. Something I cannot say for any single Kel-Tec I have ever fired.

if the design of the LCP was stolen or otherwise somehow wrongly taken from Kel-Tec, then KT would be saying something about it. there would have been a lawsuit. They would not just sit there and allow there sales to be stolen by a supposed copy.

I have a huge problem with a company that created absolute crap as Grendel, then went out of business because of it, only to create a new company and still create poorly engineered garbage to grab headlines and then use the customer as the only means of testing their product. Seriously, how does a gun company produce guns that send rounds sideways down range and not know it?

Ruger has been on a roll since Bill died and it is fun to see what comes next. I trust their products and appreciate their quality. The latest rumor is a small .22 magnum revolver. Very interesting.

[Rollis]

A man sized, 10 shot, blue, and wood, DA/SA, 22lr revolver in the 5-6 hundred dollar range would be great. The same revolver from Smith is around the $1000,00 mark.
Also I, thought Kel-Tec, was producing the Ruger, or atlest was involed with it somehow.