The "Why Every Shooter Should Own at Least One Centerfire Revolver."

[chewy]

There, it has been said. It has needed to be said. It needs to be explained.
What can semi auto guys, or our younger chaps who just ain't got a revolver yet, learn about and appreciate in a Centerfire Revolver? We gotta show 'em the way.
I'll start.
POWER. If ya' like 10mm, you'll love a 44 mag or 454 casull! Crap! I wish I had the bucks for a S&W 500! Someday.......Someday...I Will find a way. Cause it's about POWER.
It ain't about always using it as a carry gun necessarily, although it could be. It ain't always about stoppin' predators, although it should be. It ain't always about I could or should carry. Nope, it's about I would carry it.......cause it's powerful.
Is it about havin' a small weener and tryin' to compenstae? Nope. Power can be had in a 38 Special. Being able to shoot a bullet configuration of nearly any shape be it copper fmj, half jacketed H.P.s, cast lead H.P.s, hollow base wad cutter either set forward or backwards, Gold Dots, glue gun boolits, and snake shot is powerful. Having a 357 Mag literally doubles the 38 special option.

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

Trigger pull , cause POWER don't mean jack squat if you got a messed up trigger pull that throws everything off. If you can do DA on a .44 mag and get it in the 10 ring you're doing good.

[creophus]

Man you can do some serious reloading on a revolver because there's no feed issues from a magazine that you have to worry about. Also, no problems with cycling the slide.

And when it comes to home defense (hideout gun) a revolver can sit for years untouched and be completely ready to fire when you pull the trigger. No magazine springs to worry about.

[trickyasafox]

NOT CHASING BRASS!

[Anvil]

Anyone who owns a lever action or singleshot rifle should already understand the merits of a wheel gun. They may be "old school" but once you've carried an auto every day to defend your life with on the streets you begin to understand that autos look good on paper and are fine for imagining you are in this or that fantasy scenario but when it comes down to surviving a violent criminal contact, there is nothing on earth you want more than a wheel gun. You just can't make them jam, keep pulling the trigger and the hammer falls on a fresh primer. Revolvers are what people go to when there can be zero margin for error.

With an auto you're subject to... (and I may be missing some),
Stove pipe jams,
weak magazine springs,
weak ammo not cycling the slide
slide binding (slide not fully returning to battery)
accidentally hitting mag release and loosing all ammo
inability to fire more than one shot from a jacket pocket.
and having so much ammo you loose emphasis on shot placement.



All failings with an auto occur once you pull the trigger, so you're already in the fight when failure occurs.

Revolver issues:
High primers (which you can address before you ever have to fire your gun)

Revolvers are inherently more accurate due to them having a fixed barrel.

Autos have to TAP/RACK/BANG on a bad round.
Revolvers just pull the trigger again for a fresh round.

Revolvers are reliable when your life is on the line. How many "HUNTING AUTOS" are there for big game hunting (bear, boar, etc) and just look at the revolver offerings.

due to their odd shape, revolvers don't print through clothing like a similar size auto will with the typical L shape.

If you had 3 over charged rounds in a auto, all three will be fired in the same chamber (part of the barrel) and may easily KB your gun

The same 3 rounds fired in a revolver would have the stress distibuted over 3 revolver chambers and would be extremely unlikely to KB due to revolver cylinder chambers being MUCH more robust for the variety of stronger ammunition loads.

You get a MUCH better trigger on a revolver than on an automatic which means MUCH better shot placement.

revolvers don't cost nearly as much as autos of comparable quality.

Crime scene investigations are difficult when the assailant uses a revolver. There are no ammo casings to process and investigate.

[creekwalker]

Dead on the money Anvil. If you've ever rolled on the ground fighting a dirtball with all your gear geting muddy and torn up you'll understand.

cw

[TwoShot]

Well put.


Just wait until the auto gang get this post.hahahah:ow:

[Anvil]

Well put.


Just wait until the auto gang get this post.hahahah:ow:


I'll bet they all own a centerfire revolver.

[colorado4wheel]

Well a S&W686 cost more then a Glock. I find the DA pull of a revolver far more difficult to transition to once I shot my Glock. I would never shoot a revolver SA against a Bad Guy. Also, I have never had any reliability issues with a Glock but I have seen revolvers get jammed with a simply grain of unburnt powder. What gun would you choose if you had a assailant coming after you? A revolver or a Glock? Here is the catch, both have been dropped in a muddy sandy puddle? I can tell you this, it wouldn't be the revolver considering a simple bit of unburned powder can jam of a revolver.

Counterpoint.

I love the feel of a Revolver. Something so classic and precise about them. It's like a precision watch vs a Casio. Nothing like the feel of a good revolver.

Reason you have hunting guns as a revolver is not reliability its strength and accuracy. Just not easy to make a pistol strong enough for the 44Mag.

[nitesite]

The bits of unburned powder under the ejector star might prevent you from reloading, but it won't prevent the revolver from shooting dry. They get there during case extraction while pointing the revolver downwards or horizontally. Sufficient amounts of powder granules might bind the gun up on second or subsequent reloads. But never the first six shots.

[colorado4wheel]

All I know is my friends .38 failed to fire as a result of unburned powder. I watched it happen. Forever changed my view about revolvers and reliability. Revolvers have plenty that can go wrong.

[callahan318]

Nothing is perfect, but I would rather have a revolver than nothing at all!

[Crazy4nitro]

.41Mag FTW!

'Nitro

[chewy]

Yep, revolvers can fail, especially if not cleaned every once in a while, or if too much oil is applied (making it a gunk magnet). Learning to shoot revolver, not instant gratifiable trigger yankin', can only make one a better shooter too. Ya' can't go wrong by learnin' to shot one. If one "can't" shoot a revolver......I guess they "can't."

[zdogk9]

both have been dropped in a muddy sandy puddle? I can tell you this, it wouldn't be the revolver considering a simple bit of unburned powder can jam of a revolver.

Last October I low crawled about 300yds through salt marsh to within 35 yards of a 2X3, stood up, drew and shot him through both lungs and the aorta. Bang! Flop! Single action Blackhawk .45 Colt.

For double action triggers nothing matches a Smith or a Python, My redhawk in .41 Mag comes damned close though, my Webly well and truly sucks DA, single action it is a bit heavy but only my 629 performance center has less creep. Most 1911s excepting very well tuned ones are hard pressed to match the trigger pull on my Blackhawks.

And Probably the only thing better than the .41 Mag is the Monkey Magnum which'd KB any bottom feeder ever made.

[craig110]

Ok, I hear the arguments for wheel guns. Six rounds feels pretty low to me, though, since I'm used to the G17's 17 round magazines. I know that speed-loaders are sold for them, and so how long does it take to get another six rounds ready to go?

[ISUSteve]

Speed loaders are slow. It takes about 5-10 seconds if you're really good. There is that one guy who can do it about .5 seconds. But if you fumble at all or are new to it, it can get up to 30 seconds.

[nitesite]

Sufficient amounts of powder granules might bind the gun up on second or subsequent reloads. But never the first six shots.

I entered law enforcement as a deputy sheriff in 1982. Our sidearms were revolvers. I practiced a LOT, to the tune of 200-300 rounds per week. For the past 25 years I have owned and shot revolvers more often than semi-autos. And I've shot semi autos a TON.

I've NEVER had a revolver bind up with powder under the extractor. Yes, I know that it can happen but I have never personally witnessed it, not only during my own shooting but also watching up and down the ranges I have been at. As long as the load burns clean, there is only a miniscule chance that unburned powder can get under the extractor star. And it takes more than just one particle to prevent you from closing the cylinder.

I've also owned 1911s and Glocks and other semi autos during the past 30 years. I've forgotten how many malfunctions I've witnessed with semi-autos. Revolvers have been far more stone cold reliable in my experience.

Truth.

[colorado4wheel]

Comparing a clean revolver is not what I was saying. Sure a clean revolver is a super reliable gun. Thats a given. Throw in a bunch of dirt and the equation levels out a bit if you have a good pistol like a Glock.

[freakshow10mm]

I have two auto pistols (Kimber, Glock) and three revolvers (GP100 and two SP101s). When the **** is going down, I take the Kimber, the wife takes the Glock. The revolvers are social pieces; range toys, truck guns, beaters.

[chewy]

There's always a give take with any gun design, gettin' a revolver, and gettin' good with don't mean one has to shun their Glocks, I sure wouldn't, no way in hell. But autos are also simply fun to "learn", and packs more punch often times. I enjoy being part of the cycling anf action in spittin' rounds out. Plus, one can easily top off any rounds they shot "if" they can, and not have to worry about carryin' mags. Since we gettin' all tactical n' stuff, say one had to pick up a revolver that was dropped in a fight. Better to know how to use it, and never need to, than to really, really need to use it, and not know how to. It ain't that hard really. I believe many would enjoy it once they get the hang of it.

[Glooooock]

Wheel guns

1. No chasing brass
2. fixed barrel , lay it on a hood - against a post.
3. More power than most Semi-autos
4. Soft to hot loads , no spring changes
5. Most misfires , no problem
6. Heavy for better recoil reduction
7. You can beat the livin **** out of someone with it.
8. The muzzle blast from a 4" .357 will stop anything ,
even if you don't hit it with the bullet.
9. If you cant win in 6 shots , your a loser .

[Steel Talon]

Man Card validation points!!!!:thumbsup:

Peace
Steel Talon:coolgleamA:

[chewy]

Cool thing about this little booger is that it be a 357 mag, and my own subjective experience is that full house 158 grain semi jacketed H.P.s ain't that bad at all for around 20 shots at least. Plus, it can be ehot empty from a jacket pocket with no cycing or malfunction issues. :yesnod:
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k298/chewybaca67/Fire%20Arms/PB190001.jpg

[Steel Talon]

Dead on the money Anvil. If you've ever rolled on the ground fighting a dirtball with all your gear geting muddy and torn up you'll understand.

cw

I do..

Peace
Steel Talon:coolgleamA:

[chewy]

Hands down my fav. revolver, and easiest to learn ta' shoot! My S&W-pre lock thingy -686 plus 7 shooter. Smooth as slicin' butter with a hot razor.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k298/chewybaca67/P3100001.jpg

[BIGGUNGOBOOM]

If it comes down to it, it would already be the worst day in your life if you had to pull a gun on a perp and shoot them. if it cant be done with 6 rounds you aint gonna get it done with 12. it only takes a split second for **** to go bad. once 6 shots have been fired than that should do it. you aint defending the public your defending you and your familly.

Ill take my 357 snub and 44 mag over my glock or 1911 anyday. No jams "i have never had one and i have shot a lot of revolvers dirty as hell" allways goes BOOM,BOOM,BOOM,BOOM,BOOM,BOOM

[Anvil]

if it cant be done with 6 rounds you aint gonna get it done with 12.



On the most casings I've counted on the ground from a crime scene from hand guns was about 8 or so. Mind you that was from two people firing.


What non police people don't know is, when a gun fight breaks out, EVERYONE runs to escape the gunfire. The perp especially!

Think realistically if someone shot at you and you instantly sought cover, how long would it take you to get there? 3 seconds at full run?

If you were the citizen who pulled a gun on a perp and fired, how many well placed shots could you get off in 3 seconds while he scrambled for cover?

Having 12 round capacity and carrying spare 12 round magazines a bit silly to me personally. That smacks of fantasy gunplay more than real life.


The only time I've made a scene where there were ALOT of casings on the ground was.... new years eve. shots fired call where neighbors without fireworks were popping caps to ring in the new year.

I'd love to have a Glock 17 but not if it means selling off a revolver.

[colorado4wheel]

But autos are also simply fun to "learn", and packs more punch often times. I enjoy being part of the cycling anf action in spittin' rounds out.

:iagree:
There is something about shooting a Revolver that a auto just does not give you. You touch on it, I can't describe it. I used to love going to the range with my wifes 686 and shooting targets at 50ft DA. I almost never shot the thing SA. For me it was a tool and it was fun feeling the action and mastering that thing. Sadly, I lost that skill pretty quickly when I got a Glock. Now I can't shoot my Kahr (basically feels like a smoooothhhh revolver) or the 686. But it was fun when I was in that grove.

[CZ93X62]

I have equal comfort levels with both D/A revolvers and autopistols. I almost never fire a D/A revolver in single action mode. D/A shooting is second nature, once learned--and like learning to drive, if you don't learn clutch/manual transmission skills--you are only half-capable with a sidearm.

[sparky241]

Hey check this guy out,he's the reason i got a revolver in the first place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ5Pts9dUdA

[Helms]

There was an excellent article that someone wrote a few years back about carrying a revolver for defense.

I carry a taurus 85 ultralight in .38 special stuffed in my waist band in the appendix carry. I keep it loaded with 135 grain Speer gold dot short barrel +p ammo, and I have complete and total confidence in this weapon. For ME, this is why I carry a revolver. I have been in combat with the 3rd ID in Iraq, so I know a thing or two about the stress people face in real fire fights:

1. simplicity. I keep it loaded, I know if I yank the trigger it goes boom. No safety to fumble with. DA trigger pull makes it safe. It is extremely rugged, and I would have no problem dragging it through mud, a lake or whatever else and then using it. I am VERY confident it would fire.

2. Accuracy: it points very natural for me. The majority of shootings happen within 5 feet of the assailant. I can yank my pistol out and nearly guarantee a solid hit because the point is so natural for me, even if I cant pull it up to see the sights. If the perp is farther off and I have a chance to think things through such as a hostage situation, I can pull the hammer back and have a hair trigger for better accuracy at distance.

3. No slide: There is no slide that can get caught on my clothes during a very close, heavy contact struggle and induce a malfunction. As long as the perp doesnt actually GRAB the cylinder it is going to fire when I pull the trigger.

4. It is pretty light. As they say, a snub-nosed revolver should be carried frequently and shot a little. I can stuff it in my pants and basically forget its there. It disappears to anyone that doesnt know it is there, and due to the shape of the grip prints very little. The cylinder also moves the handle slightly away from my body, enabling me to get a faster, better grip on it when working fast than perhaps an autoloader would when flat against my body.

5. It holds enough ammo for nearly ANY defense situation I can envision. I am not preparing to take over a police compound at any point, I just want to defend myself. If a perp pulls a gun on me I have extreme faith that I will be able to land at least one solid hit out of 5 and I practice very frequently to be able to do this. If not, I think in 5 shots I should have scared him enough to make a get-away. Anyone that has seen real shootouts knows that anyone's first instinct is to RUN when shots get fired. A perp isnt going to stand there and laugh off five shots. In many law-enforcement shoot outs, only one or two hits actually strike the target, regardless of how many are fired (with both revolvers and automatics). To me, having an auto loader may just induce the spray and pray method of defense. Having a revolver makes me conscious that I need to take precise shots.

6. It simply looks better in the eyes of justice. We have all heard about the rambo cases, and the overkill cases that have been placed on CCW individuals. A simple, 5 shot revolver just seems very traditional and "good guy" ish to the courts. If you slay a 1911 toting robber with a little 5-shot .38 it just looks extremely favorable for a self-defense case. I suppose this same phenomenon also plays out when I am around a friend or relative and I have to expose the revolver for whatever reason (Take it off to go in a no-firearm zone, put it away at home, put it in my car, etc). Many people seem much more understanding and accept a snub-nose as a defensive type weapon. I have seen people flip out when someone exposes their full-size handgun to put it away or something because they think they are either psychotic and paranoid, or they are mass-murderers. A snubby just seems more socially acceptable.

[creophus]

As a gun enthusiast, why wouldn't you want to have a revolver? I mean call me crazy but, the words, "Because I don't have one like that." is all the reason I need to get a new gun. Seriously, it takes all kinds.

[SSDD45]

What fascinates me that LE swapped revolver to keep up with increased firepower that the criminal community was fielding. Now, of course we have the case of the policemen dying cause they pardon the pun "policed" their brass because then stuffed in their pocket only to die with an empty gun. Now, we move on to reality. I would feel equally armed with with G17 or HK USP or S&W revolver preferably one meant to use full moon clips.....pretty much fool proof reloads....fast reloads? Well, you better check how fast Jerry M does it! Granted he is the exception and not the rule I shoot three different 625's in a rotation of sorts. I probably shoot 3k of lead reloads before the gun gets moved to needs to be cleaned status. No that it is bound up because of unburnt powder, althougth I have switched powders to minimize that aspect. One can spout all kinds of this or that. But, I think shooting a revolver DA helps enhance one's shooting abilities.....

[Jayhawker]

I tend to like all the different flavors of handguns, and try to own at least a sampling of every type of action. At times, I stock up more on the the semi-autos, but still hit the range a lot with my revolvers as well. I shoot revolvers better, and I don't have to spend half of my time picking up brass (unless it is someone else's).

[Anvil]

What fascinates me that LE swapped revolver to keep up with increased firepower that the criminal community was fielding.


The gun writers said this alot years ago but I don't think it's entirely true. To understand the transition you need to lood at the times and look at the police weapons then. Many departments were using the old S&W model 10 38 special which though reliable is NOT the gun you want on your side when you HAVE to shoot. These model 10's were almost a century old design when issued and imagine the shooting scores from the duty qualification with a rustic low-bid police revolver. The .38 special and 9mm had similar ballistics and the first wonder 9's ... Smith model 39 and 459 come to mind They had much better triggers so, better qualification scores. The ammunition carried doubled so on paper it looked like a win win.

However, there were some departments that had their officers carrying Smith model 66 .357 mag 4" (Delta State University police dept. comes to mind) and they had their slicked up smiths exchanged for Glock 22. For alot of those guys their qual scores went way down and those officers felt betrayed going to an unfamiliar and less powerful / less accurate gun.

What killed the revolver for law enforcement in my oppinion wasn't the bad guys out gunning the cops. If the brass had armed police with M4 carbines we wouldn't be out gunned or if we had 1911 side arms we wouldn't be out gunned.

the 9mm in lieu of the .357 magnum was an administrative compromise and I can't believe field officers participated in that decision. I can easily imagine women couldn't score as well with the big magnum as they could with the 9mm and with affirmative action at the time the move to autos was staged. During these times (at least at the Memphis police dept) women who joined had to meet certain minimum height and weight to be manly enough to meet the job demands.

Primitive reloading techniques didn't help much either. Having loose .38 in a leather pick box on the sam browne belt didn't make for speedy reloads and the best speed loaders at that time were HKS which required fine muscle control to operate under pressure to align, insert, and twist. The safariland COMP2 style which eliminated the twist was a real improvement but came a bit late. Also, for some reason no revolvers I know of come with their cylinder chambers chamfered so reloading is a tad slower.



I wasn't on the job for any of this. Just my opinions and recollections from conversations with old head Lieutenants and Majors.

[layusn1]

I'll bet they all own a centerfire revolver.

I don't own one...

[nitesite]

I don't own one...

Did'ja ever?

[layusn1]

Nope..

[MakeMineaP99]

I can't shoot a revolver worth a damn, I'll take a SIG 220 or G17 anyday.

I don't hunt.

I don't engage targets over 25 yds with a handgun, got plenty of long guns.

[craig110]

I'm not really "sold" yet on getting a revolver, but this thread has gotten me to look into it more than I had previously. ("Previously" = "I have a G17, so why look into revolvers?" :-) I've glanced at the S&W website and I am a bit intrigued by the flexibility of the 460V / 460XVR with it being able to handle .460 S&W Magnum, .454 Casull, and .45 Colt ammo as that seems like a very wide range of power options for my reloading pleasure. I know that .38 Spl and .357 Magnum often can be done in the same gun as well. Are there other caliber combinations for revolvers?

[nitesite]

.44 Magnum®

.44 Russian
.44 S&W
.44 Special
.44 Magnum

[MONTEGOD7SS]

.445 Supermag will do one better than that!

[KCGunnr]

How bout my .22 revolver?

.22 CB cap
.22 BB cap
.22 shotshell
.22 short
.22 long
.22 long rifle

And even .22 Mag swapping out the interchangeable cylinder.

[BigSlick]

.32 S&W
.32 S&W Long
.32 Magnum
.327 Magnum

Some say even .32 ACP but I haven't tried dat

Easy as pie to load for, components cheap too.

Plus, it 100% one shot stop in street shooting

For real.

[BigSlick]

.445 Supermag will do one better than that!


I been da SuperMag route in da past.

Lotta fun, can get expensive ta get started due to (most) die sets costin too much.

Lotta load data out there, brass is kinda high (not too bad), but rest of da components is cheap

It is hell on wheels as a platform though :thumbsup:

[918v]

The gun writers said this alot years ago but I don't think it's entirely true. To understand the transition you need to lood at the times and look at the police weapons then. Many departments were using the old S&W model 10 38 special which though reliable is NOT the gun you want on your side when you HAVE to shoot. These model 10's were almost a century old design when issued and imagine the shooting scores from the duty qualification with a rustic low-bid police revolver. The .38 special and 9mm had similar ballistics and the first wonder 9's ... Smith model 39 and 459 come to mind They had much better triggers so, better qualification scores. The ammunition carried doubled so on paper it looked like a win win.

However, there were some departments that had their officers carrying Smith model 66 .357 mag 4" (Delta State University police dept. comes to mind) and they had their slicked up smiths exchanged for Glock 22. For alot of those guys their qual scores went way down and those officers felt betrayed going to an unfamiliar and less powerful / less accurate gun.

What killed the revolver for law enforcement in my oppinion wasn't the bad guys out gunning the cops. If the brass had armed police with M4 carbines we wouldn't be out gunned or if we had 1911 side arms we wouldn't be out gunned.

the 9mm in lieu of the .357 magnum was an administrative compromise and I can't believe field officers participated in that decision. I can easily imagine women couldn't score as well with the big magnum as they could with the 9mm and with affirmative action at the time the move to autos was staged. During these times (at least at the Memphis police dept) women who joined had to meet certain minimum height and weight to be manly enough to meet the job demands.

Primitive reloading techniques didn't help much either. Having loose .38 in a leather pick box on the sam browne belt didn't make for speedy reloads and the best speed loaders at that time were HKS which required fine muscle control to operate under pressure to align, insert, and twist. The safariland COMP2 style which eliminated the twist was a real improvement but came a bit late. Also, for some reason no revolvers I know of come with their cylinder chambers chamfered so reloading is a tad slower.



I wasn't on the job for any of this. Just my opinions and recollections from conversations with old head Lieutenants and Majors.

California Department of Corrections AND Rehabilitation still fields .38 Special Revolvers. So there!

[MONTEGOD7SS]

I been da SuperMag route in da past.

Lotta fun, can get expensive ta get started due to (most) die sets costin too much.

Lotta load data out there, brass is kinda high (not too bad), but rest of da components is cheap

It is hell on wheels as a platform though :thumbsup:

This right here makes me tingle in a special spot. I have always been a sucker for Dan Wesson guns and will someday own a .357 Maximum as well.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/ChrissysF150/Andy/445SupermagIHMSARight.jpg

[craig110]

How bout my .22 revolver?

.22 CB cap
.22 BB cap
.22 shotshell
.22 short
.22 long
.22 long rifle

And even .22 Mag swapping out the interchangeable cylinder.

That is a nice range of options, but it is a tad bit tricky to reload for. :(

[craig110]

.32 S&W
.32 S&W Long
.32 Magnum
.327 Magnum

Some say even .32 ACP but I haven't tried dat

Easy as pie to load for, components cheap too.

Plus, it 100% one shot stop in street shooting

For real.

I've read about that new .327 Magnum cartridge, and it sounds really nice! That set of cartridges gives a very wide range for playing around with, but without the issues of stepping up into a large-game caliber such as the .460 S&W Magnum. If I get a wheel gun, the .327 Magnum might be the right one.

It will be interesting to see how well the .327 Magnum is received in the market.

[CJStudent]

I've just about always carried and shot semi-autos of various flavors (Glock 23 and 17, SIG P228, and now a Taurus PT1911), but the best-shooting, smoothest trigger gun I have is my Ruger Security Six 4" .357. I have absolutely no problem with carrying that CCW or even as a duty piece for LE (assuming appropriate holsters, which I need to aquire :( ). I think I'm going to go shoot that today or tomorrow.

[chewy]

I've wanted one of these since they came out. Why" 8 shot 357 mag, quick dbl action due to the space between cylinders being smaller, rail. I just think it would be cool to have something the represents how the revolver has evolved/adapted to current handgun "needs."
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k298/chewybaca67/Fire%20Arms/Model327TRR8Revolver.jpg

[MONTEGOD7SS]

I have always liked those as well Chewy but I wonder if you can get speed loaders for them. Surely you can but I haven't even looked for them since the gun is so f-ing expensive to start with.

[Anvil]

I've handled one of those. I didn't like it. It was perfect in a robotic way, it lacked soul.

A guns gotta have soul.

[chewy]

I'd slap some cool grips on it, probably them micarta fake ivory jobbers or Buffalo butt bone grips or somethin'. If I ever got one it wouldn't be cuz I should, or even could (financially speaking that is), but I'd get one cuz that's somethin' I would do. I'm funny like that some times. But it could ONLY be shot with an emotionless face with Spock eyebrow raised. Don't matter if in public or alone. A man must know his limitations.

[BIGGUNGOBOOM]

I have always liked those as well Chewy but I wonder if you can get speed loaders for them. Surely you can but I haven't even looked for them since the gun is so f-ing expensive to start with.

you dont need speed loaders. it comes with 2 moon clips and you can get ya some more from S&W. I was already to get one of them but after looking at it it thought it was a little ghetto

[MONTEGOD7SS]

It doesn't make me tingle in my special spot like a Dan Wesson .357 Maximum, so I wouldn't be buying it anyways. They do make it look all ninja tacticool on the website though with the scope and light but anything can do that.

[colorado4wheel]

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k298/chewybaca67/Fire%20Arms/Model327TRR8Revolver.jpg


I like it, just like I like the lightweight S&W stuff as well. I think I am a sucker for S&W revolvers in some weird way. Never cared for the Colts. I also like Rugers and i just can't explain that either being a pistol guy when it comes to what I want on my hip when I carry loaded.

[Steve Koski]

I have exactly one center fire revolver. Model 500.

[chewy]

At least it be a mighty one. Curiosity strikes the same place twice. Why did'ja get it? I want one for home defense!

[Steve Koski]

I got it for fun. It works!

Home defense? ? ? Against brown bear?

[chewy]

I got it for fun. It works!

Home defense? ? ? Against brown bear?


Naw. If i shoot it ondoors everything of value would likely shatter and therefore be useless to any theif.

[Steve Koski]

I have always liked those as well Chewy but I wonder if you can get speed loaders for them. Surely you can but I haven't even looked for them since the gun is so f-ing expensive to start with.
Speed loaders? Just moon clip 'em. I know guys that can reload their 8 shot S&Ws faster than I can pop in a full mag.

[craig110]

Moon clips look interesting for fast reloads. How hard is it to take the cases out to reload them, though, and how do you store or carry them in a way that doesn't bend the metal?

[fnfalman]

Accuracy is where it's at. When you make hits way beyond 25-meters because that obsolete wheelgun has superb trigger pull, excellent sights and sweet mechanical precision, all of the gunfighter commandos just look at you and gape with their mouths wide open and wonder why their Glock 9s can't hit the side of a barn at ten paces.

[Steve Koski]

Moon clips look interesting for fast reloads. How hard is it to take the cases out to reload them, though, and how do you store or carry them in a way that doesn't bend the metal?

The moonie guys buy or make a little de-mooning tool that pops them out real quick. After you load 'em up, you load them back in to the moon clips until you shoot them. They have these special cases that hold a grundle of moon clips just right so they don't get bent.

[craig110]

Are you referring to the moon clip pouch, Steve? For example, this product: http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=416037&t=11082005 or are you talking about something else?

[io_joe]

I really like some of the strange looks you get by noobs at the range when you're popping out moon clips.

BTW, I just bought a bunch of 625 moon clips from Natchess awhile back. These things are so tight that it's really hard to get the last round in and the last case out. I even have the funky little tool.

[nitesite]

I really like some of the strange looks you get by noobs at the range when you're popping out moon clips.

BTW, I just bought a bunch of 625 moon clips from Natchess awhile back. These things are so tight that it's really hard to get the last round in and the last case out. I even have the funky little tool.

The best-est tool I've used for de-mooning clips I actually made myself from an old golf club. It'll hold 12 .45ACP cases before needing to be dumped, and they'll pour out right where you want them. I never found a moon clip that didn't easily release its cases using my device.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/nitesite9/demooner.jpg

[fnfalman]

For fooling around at the range, it's hard to beat the RIMZ plastic moonies. Easy in, easy out, all by finger power.

[Steve Koski]

Are you referring to the moon clip pouch, Steve? For example, this product: http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=416037&t=11082005 or are you talking about something else?
That is one you would wear on your belt during cary/competion, but there are also boxes (ala small tool box) that hold a jillion moonies for transport to/from the range.

[craig110]

Ok, you guys might have gone and done it now. Between this thread's previous discussion of the reloading fun created by the flexibility of being able to shoot caliber "families" in revolvers, the reliability they have, and now this discussion of how quickly they can be reloaded with moon clips, you've pretty much convinced me to become a wheel-gun shooter some day. Consider me to be a conceptual convert now.

[creekwalker]

Craig, once you've mastered the double action trigger pull of a revolver you'll realize the full potential of it. An early model Python or N frame S&W is incredible. then when you handle a K frame S&W or a good Ruger you'll just smile and nod your head because thy're so sweet. Full moon cllips are great, but I cut my teeth on speed loaders and don't feel the least bit handicaped when using them.
CW

[TowsonTiger22]

I'm thinking of getting a Taurus .454 sometime soon. But first comes my GP100.

[fnfalman]

Craig, once you've mastered the double action trigger pull of a revolver you'll realize the full potential of it. CW

Yep, for combat shooting, a wheelie DA pull is no handicap. It's almost as accurate as SA shooting but a lot faster. Unlike most auto's DA pulls, a wheelgun DA pull can be slicked up smoother than snot, even the dreaded Ruger DA pull.

[BIGGUNGOBOOM]

I'm thinking of getting a Taurus .454 sometime soon. But first comes my GP100.

you must have a Taurus 454 Casull. it is a kick in the pants. I love mine

:patriot:

[chewy]

Squinting with a revolver looks cooler than with an auto.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k298/chewybaca67/ClintSquint.jpg

[Steel Talon]

Squinting with a revolver looks cooler than with an auto.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k298/chewybaca67/ClintSquint.jpg


Dah WINNAH!

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

Now this is the only problem I have ever had with Josey Wales is that pic right there.
If you guys would notice , Josey aka Clint is holding 2 Colt Walker Dragoons (look at the loading levers, no latches) Only about a 1000 of the Walkers were ever made and they are HUGE.....so what would be the chances that this Civil War guerrilla would have 2 of them? I know some of you guys are rolling your eyes at me right now...
It is a great pic though.......

[Steel Talon]

Now this is the only problem I have ever had with Josey Wales is that pic right there.
If you guys would notice , Josey aka Clint is holding 2 Colt Walker Dragoons (look at the loading levers, no latches) Only about a 1000 of the Walkers were ever made and they are HUGE.....so what would be the chances that this Civil War guerrilla would have 2 of them? I know some of you guys are rolling your eyes at me right now...
It is a great pic though.......


Well if that Civil War guerilla fighter was Josey then he would have two of them:)
:cornut:
Peace
ST~:coolgleamA:

[CZ93X62]

Dunno about that, Boomer. I have an older gun book, "Colt Firearms 1836-1954" by James Serven (1954), and it shows a late-1940's photo of a Walker owner about 70 years old holding his TWO Walkers with Dragoon-style loading lever latches installed, a fairly common aftermarket add-on by gunsmiths. Seems to me that if a guy in the 1940's could possess two such pieces, Josey Wales seems at lest as likely to be able to have 2 of them only 15-20 years after they went out of production.

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

I know it's just a movie and all, but in the real world I guess anything is possible......A civil war guerilla would have definately had a plethora of pistols scrounged from various sources. Loved the end scene when he kills the redleg leader and is snapping all of his pistols at him. How many did he go through, 6 maybe??...another great movie about Civil War guerillas is " Ride With The Devil" with Tobey Maguire and Jewel....
Speaking of Clint movies I saw Magnum Force the other day, What a great revolver movie.Seemed like EVERYBODY had revolvers.....Even the scene where the vigilante cop had the revolver and attached the silencer to it when he killed the naked people in the highrise apt and then the other cop at the parking garage below.
The combat revolver competition was pretty cool too....

[chewy]

Ride with the Devil is a cool flic. One of my favs.