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Fatdaddy
11-08-2011, 05:43 PM
I've been looking around for an additional carry/knockaround gun and ran across the Taurus 941: http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=366&category=Revolver&toggle=&breadcrumbseries=

8 rds of 22 mag in a lightweight/compact revolver seems kind of cool for some reason. Probably not cool enough to actually buy one but cool none the less.
Been doing a little reading and one thing that keeps coming up is how loud the 22mag is from a handgun. I don't quite understand why it would be noticeably louder that say a 38+p.
I know for a fact the 22 mag from a rifle is fairly impressive on small to medium game.
How do you think it would perform as a defensive weapon and has anyone seen any ballistics out of a short bbl revolver for the round?

Blackdog
11-08-2011, 05:50 PM
Don't know why either, but a 22 mag from a single six will make your ears ring quick as lightning. First hand experience.

nitesite
11-08-2011, 08:42 PM
They are loud as heck, more so than they ought to be.

It might make for a nice camp gun or fishing companion, but I'm more a fan of heavy bullets in a handgun. Still, eight rounds of .22 mag is sorta reassuring in some weird sort of way.

But that sumbitch will be awful loud.

I'd probably pass on it and try the Model 905 5-shot 9mm revolver for a cheap shooter that would handle things on the trail a little bit better. The 990 Tracker looks pretty nice, too!

Spinnerblade
11-10-2011, 07:46 AM
22 mag in a revolver reminds me of 357 in a revolver. Really loud and you lose a lot of velocity compared to a rifle. I believe I've read that 22 mag in a revo is similar, velocity wise, to 22lr in a rifle.

Just checked the Nov. American Rifleman where they review the Taurus 990 Tracker. The "normal" 22mag ammo went approx 1260fps and the best "normal' 22lr load went 1126fps, 4" barrel.

I think 38+p would actually be louder, but it -seems- like the 22 mag shouldn't be as loud as it is.

Personally, I would rather have a compact 38 than 22 mag, but don't let me stop ya. The guns a person likes is mostly personal preference anyway.:smilie45:

Fatdaddy
11-10-2011, 05:19 PM
A nice J-frame in the hand snapped me back to my senses.
Here's my new little companion. It just melts in your hand.:wavetowel2:
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv297/lowangz/Terdyate.jpg

Spinnerblade
11-11-2011, 05:11 AM
Cool! Let us know how you end up liking it, how it shoots, etc.
Cheers:smilie45:

gokyo
11-11-2011, 08:40 AM
I really did not recall my single six being uber loud.

I will take it out today and bring my decibal meter. I let you know what 22lr is compared to 22 mag. I bring my 9mm and a 10mm for comparison sake.

Let you know tonight.

Fatdaddy
11-11-2011, 11:48 AM
From what I've heard it isn't that it's that much louder, it's more the pitch of the blast. I've heard it described as more of a high pitch crack that hurts the ears.
Let us know, I'd be interested in the readings.:smilie45:

gokyo
11-11-2011, 05:30 PM
Let me start by saying that decibel scale is a logarithmic scale (base 10). It measure power or you could consider it pressure.

Because it is logarithmic an increase of 3 db means a doubling of "loudness."

So 23 db is twice as loud as 20 db.

OK here is the data I took today. I placed the meter next to my ear where i would be hearing the sound.

Earlier I measure the db of my AR15 pistol and a M4

Ar15 pistol 129
Ar15 M4 127.3
10mm 127.5 db
22 mag 126.1 db
22 LR 124.2 db

So there you go.
In summary 10mm is twice as loud as 22lr
22mag is about 1.7x as loud as a 22lr
and
AR15 pistol is way way way louder then a 22lr

Fatdaddy
11-11-2011, 06:40 PM
Those results are pretty interesting. I'd forgotten about the the 3db x2 rule.
That AR pistol is bad news:shock:
Have you tried measuring how different proximity to barriers, obstacles, overhangs and even confined spaces effect DB levels.
I know for a fact that an AR accidentally fired in a bedroom is at least twice as loud as one fired outside:whistling1:

Rollis
11-11-2011, 08:03 PM
When I, had an AD in my living room it did not sound loud at all, I, wounded if it was because of it being in a large room out of a long barreled rifle. The dogs were not very impressed with me afterwards though.

gokyo
11-11-2011, 09:30 PM
Have you tried measuring how different proximity to barriers, obstacles, overhangs and even confined spaces effect DB levels.


I have only tested outside in a gravel pit that I shoot at.

Although I think the things you are mentioning might be interesting. However my main interest has been just how loud is loud.

I will say there is what the db meter says and that does not always match what something feels like.

This may have something to do with pitch and impulse rate. A short loud blast may not sound as loud as a longer quieter blast. This is just speculation.

gokyo
11-11-2011, 09:32 PM
This may have something to do with pitch and impulse rate. A short loud blast may not sound as loud as a longer quieter blast. This is just speculation.

Although now that I wrote this I am wondering if it in fact just the opposite.

So here is a thought experiment....
Which sounds louder:
A jet engine at 127 db?
Or interrupting a silent room with 10mm pistol crack at 127 db?

Fatdaddy
11-12-2011, 06:06 AM
Seems to me that a higher pitch (frequency) sound of the same DB level would be worse on the ears than a lower pitch of the same duration just from the amount of waves that reach the eardrum.
Dunno, interesting to ponder.:hypno:

gokyo
11-12-2011, 07:26 AM
Seems to me that a higher pitch (frequency) sound of the same DB level would be worse on the ears than a lower pitch of the same duration just from the amount of waves that reach the eardrum.
Dunno, interesting to ponder.:hypno:
That is a really good point.

I am wondering if a db Meter would take that into account considering I think it is not just measuring the magnitude of the wave but the energy that the wave is producing.

Yeah I do not know. I will call the manufacturer of my db meter on Monday.