Hey Creophus

[Murphy's Law]

When I first starting loading for my G23c, you gave me a nice recipe utilizing "Titegroup" however I can no longer find my personal data sheet and wonder if you could provide again. I think back then I was lighting it off under 180gr FMJ's but now I have a whole bunch of 165gr FMJ's. Any ideas? I'm thinking something around 4.2 - 5.0 with my OAL set presently at 1.125. What say OM?

:console:

[creophus]

Murph,

The load was 3.2gr of Titegroup under the 180gr bullet. That was a really light load but reliable in the G23.

What do you want to do with those 165gr loads? Something with low recoil or just range fun?

[D. Manley]

When I first starting loading for my G23c, you gave me a nice recipe utilizing "Titegroup" however I can no longer find my personal data sheet and wonder if you could provide again. I think back then I was lighting it off under 180gr FMJ's but now I have a whole bunch of 165gr FMJ's. Any ideas? I'm thinking something around 4.2 - 5.0 with my OAL set presently at 1.125. What say OM?

:console:

Just bump Creo's TG load to 3.9 grains under the 165 FMJ's and smile.

[creophus]

Just bump Creo's TG load to 3.9 grains under the 165 FMJ's and smile.
Cool!

[D. Manley]

Cool!


I've grouped it from 3.7 to 4.1 looking for the most accurate and still soft-shooting. It shot well all within that range but once around 4.0 there tended to be a little more "snap" and no increase in accuracy so I settled @ 3.9. My G-35 cycled fine at 3.7 if you care to try it there. This is with 165 Rainier FN and 165 Zero JHP's, both loaded to 1.130.

[Murphy's Law]

Interesting and thanks guys. Yep, just for plinking is the intended use. I almost wished I had stayed with the 180 gr bullet as I see more combinations of powder options, etc. Its funny though, as that original 3.2 load as noted was soft and accurate and probably should not have looked/played around for something even better. However, that's what this hobby is all about...finding that perfect combination. I'll t ry the 3.7 - 4.1and make up around 10 rounds of each in steps of .1 or .2 gr and see how things work out. I'll also report back with my findings. Again..... thanks boys.

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[creophus]

You're exactly right Murph, it's all about experimenting and finding new combos with what you have available.

[Murphy's Law]

Ok ..... loaded up some ammo using 3.9 gr of TG under 165gr FMJ's. They performed beautifully with moderate recoil and fairly good accuracy. I see for the same grain bullet only JHP's that Hogdon shows TG at 4.6 - 5.1 grains. I wonder if it's worth it jumping up in .2 gr intervals and see if the groups tighten up just a bit? Prior to the TG, I was using W-231 with equal results. My neighbor who also reloads just offered me some Longshot (in trade for some Blue Dot) I've had for a long time. Gosh this hobby is fun. I just find it strange that so many folks stay away from the reloading for the 40 S&W thinking it's more dangerous then other calibers. If one pays attention to detail, I don't think personally there's anything to worry about. Just as long you stay within certain guidelines and inspect your brass for over pressure, etc, it's a fun gun (Glock 23C in my case) to plink with. Although the Glock 23C is ported, a long time ago on one of the forums, I picked up a almost brand new EFK barrel which is not ported so I kind of have the best of two worlds when playing around. I originally got the EFK for something like $75 dollars but at the last gun show (this past weekend in Tampa), I see they now go for $180 ...... could hardly believe my eyes/sticker price. Thanks again for the recommendations on the TG guys.

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[creophus]

Glad it worked out for you. DM won't steer you wrong.

[D. Manley]

Ok ..... loaded up some ammo using 3.9 gr of TG under 165gr FMJ's. They performed beautifully with moderate recoil and fairly good accuracy. I see for the same grain bullet only JHP's that Hogdon shows TG at 4.6 - 5.1 grains. I wonder if it's worth it jumping up in .2 gr intervals and see if the groups tighten up just a bit? Prior to the TG, I was using W-231 with equal results. My neighbor who also reloads just offered me some Longshot (in trade for some Blue Dot) I've had for a long time. Gosh this hobby is fun. I just find it strange that so many folks stay away from the reloading for the 40 S&W thinking it's more dangerous then other calibers. If one pays attention to detail, I don't think personally there's anything to worry about. Just as long you stay within certain guidelines and inspect your brass for over pressure, etc, it's a fun gun (Glock 23C in my case) to plink with. Although the Glock 23C is ported, a long time ago on one of the forums, I picked up a almost brand new EFK barrel which is not ported so I kind of have the best of two worlds when playing around. I originally got the EFK for something like $75 dollars but at the last gun show (this past weekend in Tampa), I see they now go for $180 ...... could hardly believe my eyes/sticker price. Thanks again for the recommendations on the TG guys.

:grin:

You can certainly try it but loading hotter did nothing for me but put more snap on the gun. My groups with loading a little hotter were good enough but, no better so I settled on 3.9 grains. I was shooting a G35 so who knows, the 23C may be different and take a little more zip.

[creophus]

If all you are doing is putting holes in the paper, I like to use the lowest charge that's accurate. If you need to knock down steel, then the load has to have enough oomph.

The 3.2gr under 180gr will knock down steel so I know this one will do it.

The less powder you use the cheaper.

[Murphy's Law]

Spoken like a true "CRB"..... LOL :grin:

[creophus]

Spoken like a true "CRB"..... LOL :grin:Yep, that's me! :wavetowel2: