I think I want a 5.7x28 precision bolt rifle

[gokyo]

You have all seen the way people are crazy about 17hmr.

I think it is a good idea. However too small.

I think Savage should chamber the BTVS bolt rifle in 5.7x28

It is faster heavier but would have no recoil.

You could reload. and the price of high qulaity ammo is pretty good. 20 bucks/50 rounds.

I would buy one tomorrow if it was offered.

[freakshow10mm]

Isn't ballistics about a .221 Fireball? That would be cheaper and you could cut down .223 cases.

[gokyo]

I thought the parent case for .221 fireball was the .222 not the 223. However I am not sure.

[freakshow10mm]

It is. The 222 or 223 cases can be cut down or so I'm told.

[ISUSteve]

Stealing the thread...can 222 cases be formed to 223?

[freakshow10mm]

I think a trim and shoulder set back is the deal. Probably trim and FL size-don't quote me.

[CZ93X62]

222's could be reformed from 223's, I imagine--but the shorter length of the 222 casing would not work for forming into 223.

I won't do case reforming to yield cases for calibers still in production and easily/affordably located. Life is too short for that, and my time is worth something to me.

That 5.7 x 28 round is an intriguing little critter. I imagine it would provide the "no movement" recoil of the 17 Remington, a thing I enjoyed while shooting ground squirrels with my buddy's Rem 700 so chambered. Another caliber this these attributes is the 17 Fireball, commerciallized this year by Remington. All of these light-bullet rounds are blown galley-west by any appreciable winds, and wind is a feature of every varmint hunt I've been on.

The real vigor for the 5.7 x 28 or the 17 Fireball for me is component cost--these calibers use a LOT less powder than the 22-250 or 243, and when you light off dozens or hundreds of rounds on a day's hunt, that becomes attractive. Yeah, the wind blows the bullets around, but it affects 22-250 and 243 bullets too--just not as drastically.

[sparky241]

5.7x28? i have never heard of this caliber. Whats the data on it?

[MONTEGOD7SS]

It is the round in the FN FiveseveN, P90, and others. Not much more powerful than a .17HMR but has the advantage of being much more expensive.

[918v]

Anyone tried varmint hunting with a mortar?

[freakshow10mm]

I small game hunt with a 405gr LFN from the 45/70.

[918v]

Cuz I was thinking that you could fire a 45 caliber airburst round from a Marlin in the general direction of the mound, and let them critters have it with a bunch of #4 shot.

[CZ93X62]

918v--

If you lived in ground squirrel country, a resolution like the one you suggest is well within reasonable limits for most landowners. The depth and breadth of landowner hatred for the critters is palpable out here. I scalp the brush and weeds at my place and let the coyotes and bobcats work them, but still have whacked several with my airguns already this year.

[918v]

The only problem is the fuse, but I'm working on that (in my head).

[CZ93X62]

I vote "proximity activation". 7'-10' overhead airburst.

You might also give the "bunker buster" idea a little free rein--delay fuse after imbed/penetration. No noise issues, either.

[Steve Koski]

Boy, if I was to get a precision rifle, I'd want a bullet that showed up at the target ready to do some work. A flea poop on fire doesn't quite do it for me.

[MONTEGOD7SS]

All ya gots to do is sneak down there real quiet like the night before and strategically places a bunch of seperate Tannerite bottles all around the mound. As the little critters come up you just occasionally shoot one of those charges and paint the whole dog town red. Kinda like Pale Rider, but with vermin.

[BIGGUNGOBOOM]

i was going to say that !!!!!!!!!! ive seen it happen. speaking of tannerite, time to make an order
you in?

[CZ93X62]

The ballistics of the 5.7 x 28 look a lot like the 22 Hornet's to me. My first look at the P-90 ammo left me thinking "K-Hornet, done rimless". The Hornet doesn't disassemble jackrabbits like a 22-250, but does jack them up right proper just the same. If the 5.7 is indeed an accurate caliber in a bolt rifle, it would be a step ahead of the Hornet--which can be a little iffy accuracy-wise in some rifles so chambered.

The CZ-527 is NOT among the inaccurate variants.

[jwp]

Stealing the thread...can 222 cases be formed to 223?
222 magnum cases can be
223 is almost exactly 1/2 way between in length

[RenoF250]

Boy, if I was to get a precision rifle, I'd want a bullet that showed up at the target ready to do some work. A flea poop on fire doesn't quite do it for me.

My thoughts exactly. Besides, a little recoil is good for you.

Why does everyone want to mess around with these funky rounds? 22-250 is very common and cheap and it has the case capacity to get the bullet moving if you need to mist some critters.

[CZ93X62]

My thoughts exactly. Besides, a little recoil is good for you.

Why does everyone want to mess around with these funky rounds? 22-250 is very common and cheap and it has the case capacity to get the bullet moving if you need to mist some critters.

Barrel life. 22-250 is about done at 2000 rounds, the 223 that gives up 10%-15% of the velocity yields 100% longer barrel life (4K or so). For active varmint hunters, 2K rounds is one season.

Component cost per round, principally powder. Running less powder per shot down a barrel also extends the barrel's life, as noted above. A 22 Hornet would likely last a lot longer than a 223 barrel, and I've never heard of one being shot out. No way you'll mist a rat at 400 meters with a Hornet repeatably, but there's always stalking.

A CZ-527 in 22 Hornet is on my short list of toys to get after selling off some of the safe queens.