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MakeMineaP99
08-18-2008, 05:08 PM
Damn the state department and the horse they rode in on. Saw this on subguns:


Manufacturers:
The State Department has proposed raising the annual ITAR registration fee to $2,250.
If you have *any* export activity, the minimum fee will increase to $2,750.
If you apply to export items more than 10 times, the fee will be $2,750, plus $250 per export application over 10.
In the final coup d' grace, State is proposing that the annual registration fee equal 3% of the total annual value of a company's export. If Dillon Aero exported 10 M134's and the export totalled $1.3M, the annual registration fee for the following year would equal or exceed $30,000.
The notice was published in the Federal Register (Volume 73, Number 145, Page 43653) and can be found online.
Not happy with the proposed fee increase? The comment period for the proposed fee increase closes on August 28, 2008. Send your emails to:
DDTCResponseTeam@state.gov (DDTCResponseTeam@state.gov)
Please include “ITAR Regulatory Change, 22 CFR Parts 122 and 129” within the Subject line.
If you wish to respond via letter, the mailing address for comments is:
Department of State, Directorate of Defense Trade Controls
ATTN: Regulatory Change, ITAR sections 122 and 129
SA–1, 12th floor
Washington, DC 20522–0112
I urge you to submit comments to the State Department on this issue.

Steve Koski
08-18-2008, 05:11 PM
What is ITAR?

AlPackin
08-18-2008, 05:14 PM
What is ITAR?
I don't know but I'm peed off

jawjaboy
08-18-2008, 05:15 PM
I don't know but I'm peed off

:rofl:

jawjaboy
08-18-2008, 05:16 PM
What is ITAR?

:confused:

AdamN
08-18-2008, 05:19 PM
I bet Itar is peed off to

craig110
08-18-2008, 05:20 PM
What is ITAR?

International Traffic in Arms Regulations


Damn the state department and the horse they rode in on. Saw this on subguns:
Manufacturers:
The State Department has proposed raising the annual ITAR registration fee to $2,250.
If you have *any* export activity, the minimum fee will increase to $2,750.
If you apply to export items more than 10 times, the fee will be $2,750, plus $250 per export application over 10.


What a strange fee structure. If you don't export anything, the fee is ~80% of the fee if you export from 1 to 10 items. Wow.


In the final coup d' grace, State is proposing that the annual registration fee equal 3% of the total annual value of a company's export. If Dillon Aero exported 10 M134's and the export totalled $1.3M, the annual registration fee for the following year would equal or exceed $30,000.


I bet the export value would quickly become $1.33+M. Too bad the entire fee structure isn't value based since you wouldn't be hit with the $2,250 fee just to be in their database.

MakeMineaP99
08-18-2008, 05:22 PM
The regulations imposed under the AECA of 1976, the only federal firearms law ATF does not enforce (cover small arms and lots of other things).

All manufacturers of ammunition and components thereof, firearms and components thereof, and even things like scopes have to register and pay the $1750 filing fee (currently, went up from $600 in '05) yearly.

Damn the man! BS to the nth degree.

AlPackin
08-18-2008, 05:23 PM
dem government bloodsuckers at the trough ... "lawmakers", I despise da phrase

AdamN
08-18-2008, 05:27 PM
I would say that the end user will be absorbing any fees/increases.

Looks like there trying to dissuade people from selling Internationally.

Or they just need a pay raise.........

MakeMineaP99
08-18-2008, 05:37 PM
There are lots of SOTs NOT paying the ITAR fee, as it is beyond punitive. The taxes and fees of being in the NFA business have already been passed on to the consumer, as evidenced by $500-$1000 suppressors. Essentially, the price of the hardware will need to increase to prices beyond astronomical.

If they were trying to keep people from selling internationally, why require domestic only manufacturers to register? Especially 06 FFLs who sell small arms ammo. Small arms are NOT what the AECA of 1976 was targeted at, however, small arms were caught under the sweeping terms of the AECA.

Pay raise? I haven't had a cost of living in over 3 years, since business is aledgedlly "poor", how about I get some of that pay raise?

Please send a short email to the state department protesting this proposed change.

craig110
08-18-2008, 05:41 PM
The regulations imposed under the AECA of 1976, the only federal firearms law ATF does not enforce (cover small arms and lots of other things).

All manufacturers of ammunition and components thereof, firearms and components thereof, and even things like scopes have to register and pay the $1750 filing fee (currently, went up from $600 in '05) yearly.

Damn the man! BS to the nth degree.

Quite a read: http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/itar/p121.htm#C-III

And all of you GPers probably thought that you'd never see Crack Killa ammo being controlled the same as naval nuclear propulsion units and missile and space launch vehicle powerplants. :animlol:

ETA: Changed "put into the same category" to "being controlled the same" to avoid confusion since they are listed in different "categories" in the munition list.

AdamN
08-18-2008, 05:48 PM
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Pay raise? I haven't had a cost of living in over 3 years, since business is aledgedlly "poor", how about I get some of that pay raise?.


We need a goverment job

freakshow10mm
08-18-2008, 10:54 PM
Republicans think every day is July 4th.

Democrats think every day is April 15.

MakeMineaP99
08-18-2008, 11:17 PM
They're all the same.

freakshow10mm
08-18-2008, 11:18 PM
As of late, yes. I vote Libertarian.

Mogollon
08-22-2008, 11:06 AM
Thanks for the heads up. We just paid for two years. Do NOT want to see it at 3% of our gross. That would eat up most of the net profit. Unless putting people like us out of business is their eventual goal.:patriot:

MakeMineaP99
08-22-2008, 11:11 AM
Ding, ding, Gary, there you have it...