Seen the new S&W revolvers today

[Fatdaddy]

I snuck out this afternoon for the gunshow looking for something to scratch the itch with.
I had seen the new S&W revolvers in some of the gun rags and they looked pretty spiffy. I got to check out a few first hand at the GS this afternoon and was really dissapointed. Am I the only one that thinks these things look cheaply made. Whats with the little silver metal clip that looks like it keeps the barrel in place. The finish doesn't look that durable either. One of the new guns had a nasty ring mark from just working the hammer back a few times or more. I see why they brought back some of the classics just recently now.
Rant off.

[AlPackin]

dang ... say it aint so ...

[MullahElRon]

I abstain.

[jawjaboy]

I snuck out this afternoon for the gunshow looking for something to scratch the itch with.
I had seen the new S&W revolvers in some of the gun rags and they looked pretty spiffy. I got to check out a few first hand at the GS this afternoon and was really dissapointed. Am I the only one that thinks these things look cheaply made. Whats with the little silver metal clip that looks like it keeps the barrel in place. The finish doesn't look that durable either. One of the new guns had a nasty ring mark from just working the hammer back a few times or more. I see why they brought back some of the classics just recently now.
Rant off.

Ya could'nt stand it could ya? :slick:

I'm tellin ya, I got da onliest true deal there.

Yessir, I laid eyes on them new spiffy Smiths wit da 6 price tags on 'em. I a won't be lay'n down fer one. Promise. 2 cents.

[Boge]

Whats with the little silver metal clip that looks like it keeps the barrel in place. The finish doesn't look that durable either. One of the new guns had a nasty ring mark from just working the hammer back a few times or more.

The little clip is what prevents topstrap erosion on the lightweight frame and it works well. The finish is a matte finish as most people that really appreciate a classic gun blue would not be buying a new S&W DA. The hand labor for a great blue job is exhorbitant as the secret is in LOTS of HAND polishing. The ring on the cylinder may have been caused by some dufus who tried to turn the cylinder by hand.

Think what you will, but the S&W DA revolvers of today are light years ahead in accuracy than ANY previous made DA revolvers. The old Triple Locks and their successors were meticulously fitted, polished and assembled, but their accuracy was (is) no where near those of today. No human hand can compete with a laser & CNC machinery.

[MullahElRon]

I'd rather have a chrome Luger with mother of pearl grips.

[zdogk9]

I'd rather have a chrome Luger with mother of pearl grips.

Iwantoneandwillholdmybreath'tilliturnblueintheface ifIdon'tgetone .

[Boge]

...with mother of pearl grips.

Wasn't Patton the one who corrected the reporter once when asked about his Colt SAA as they were ivory & not pearl grips as only a New Orleans pimp would own a pearl handled pistol.

:biggrinjester:

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

I want one of the Nightguards in .45 acp, but I don't want to pay what they want for them.


http://www.gunsamerica.com/930229217/Guns/Pistols/Smith-Wesson-Revolvers/Pocket-Pistols/Smith_and_Wesson_325_Night_Guard_45_ACP.htm

I also saw the .44 mag version at a local gunshop..They wanted over $900 for it..

[Fatdaddy]

Ya could'nt stand it could ya? :slick:

I'm tellin ya, I got da onliest true deal there.

Yessir, I laid eyes on them new spiffy Smiths wit da 6 price tags on 'em. I a won't be lay'n down fer one. Promise. 2 cents.

It started raining after dinner today and I had some $ burning a hole in my pocket like hot lead in a high top. I volunteered to go pick up some groceries and said I'ze gonna' swing by the GS on the way.
Swung by Peckerhead's table, he had a very nice S&W 10mm stainless for 'bout $700+...kept moving. Had it narrowed down to a Taurus OSS 45 or a complete RRA lower when I ran up on an unissued Sig P6 in perfect condition. The slide date is 9/01 and the gun is like new. It has the bar dot sights and 2 mags. I probably gave a little more than I should've but I didn't think that I did too awful for a gun in the shape this one was.

[nitesite]

I bought a Thunder Ranch Revolver Model 22 .45ACP revolver when they debuted a couple years ago. It came with a heavy turn line in the cylinder, brand new in the box. Apparently, all of the new TRR22s had it. I didn't care much about that since I was going to make it a heavily used shooter.

I searched the country for a new Thunder Ranch Revolver Model 22 and found the s/n I wanted:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/nitesite9/TRRModel22-4gripsandserialnoweb.jpg

I was looking to buy a JM625 with the button rifled barrel for lead loads but I REALLY wanted a blued four-screw N-frame with a square butt and fixed sights that took moon clips. So that's what I bought.

Turned out that I chose wrong.

The throats were perfect, but the rifling was so shallow that it would barely grip a .451" jacketed Gold Dot.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/nitesite9/rifling5web.jpg

I never even tried a lead load thru it.

So it went to a collector who wanted it for the unique serial number.

Really, what was S&W thinking when they made rifling so shallow that even jacketed bullets couldn't get a good seal and grip?

I love my 686-6, and consider it one of the best DA revolvers I've ever owned. But some of the newer S&W revolvers leave me cold.

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

I also have a TR M22 .....Have only shot it a couple of dozen times...just with 230 gr FMJ's....Kinda itching to get one of the older 25's in .45 acp.

[nitesite]

How are your barrel and throat dimensions?

The one I bought had an excellent SA trigger, and although the DA pull was a bit heavy it was as smooth as any stock S&W could be.

I hope you are still enjoying yours.

[Boge]

Really, what was S&W thinking when they made rifling so shallow that even jacketed bullets couldn't get a good seal and grip?


Because they determined that groove depth was not all that critical. Mike Venturino thought the same thing about his new 22....................until he shot it. :)

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_/ai_n16034763

[Crazy4nitro]

I saw a S&W .460 that had a Little Bent clip of Stainless steel wedges above the barrel/top strap. I was told it protected aginst top strap erosion Flame cutting.

'Nitro

[jawjaboy]

I volunteered to go pick up some groceries and said I'ze gonna' swing by the GS on the way.

:rofl: That's funny now. Gonna go to the grocery store, and swing by the gun show 40 miles south.

[Fatdaddy]

I come clean on the purchase too, we makin' progress.:yesnod:

[jawjaboy]

I come clean on the purchase too, we makin' progress.:yesnod:

:thumbsup:

[chewy]

This is why I never buy a revolver online. I gotta' handleit, check them thar barrel/cylinder gaps, lock up and such. I ain't brand loyal, but if them 2 things plus a decent trigger are present, I don't care what brand it is, I'll get and shoot it to find out how it really rolls.

[CZ93X62]

The Colt and S&W 45 ACP revolvers have always had pretty shallow rifling profiles, since Day 1 with the Model 1917s. They were designed to work with jacketed bullets, and soft lead can skid in this profile if driven too hard (as in, "above 750 FPS"). The fix is to limit bullet designs to long drive surface designs (Keith-type, H&G #68, etc.) and use fairly hard alloys--at least wheelweights, and 92/6/2 is better yet.

The late-series Model 625s use a new-pattern rifling form (as do many other recent S&W revos), and the 625s have a rep for excellent accuracy among members over at Cast Boolits.