View Full Version : Obnoxious firearms to clean
yammerschooner
11-01-2008, 10:57 PM
I spent a portion of this evening cleaning my Ruger Mark III, and continue to be amazed that any company would suggest a mallet and a paperclip as extremely helpful tools to perform routine cleaning.
So what are some other fun ones that you all clean?
ISUSteve
11-01-2008, 11:04 PM
I don't like cleaning the Garand. Its hard to get the follower rod over the follower arm with greasy fingers.
JLarsson
11-01-2008, 11:07 PM
I don't like the .17's much. Slender rods and tight patches make it a bit tougher. Lever actions require a bit of disassembly to clean from the rear (my preference). Not a huge deal, but more of an inconvenience.
blueline541
11-02-2008, 12:04 AM
As soon as I read the title of your thread I immediatley thought of my Ruger Mark II. Go figure. The man that designed the thing is a sadistic genius.
My favorite gun to clean is the Thompson. I don't enjoy cleaning guns except for this one. I always think about the officers from decades ago that cleaned the same weapon that I now own. Pretty cool.
gokyo
11-02-2008, 01:50 AM
I don't like cleaning the Garand. Its hard to get the follower rod over the follower arm with greasy fingers.
Isn't that the truth. It is the second hardest weapon in my safe. The first hardest is the AR.
Personally I think the AR platform is a pain to clean. The locking lugs for the rotating bolt is a real pain.
I am think of getting one of those ARES piston kits so that it will make my blasting AR easier to clean.
As for the MK II etc. It is a pain I sold mine to buy a S&W model 41.
However I did buy my dad a stainless 5 inch taper barrel MKII for his Birthday one year.
Ditto the AR. I hate cleaning the breech lockup section. Next time I'm tempted to hose it down with cleaner, scrub and throw a Maxi Pad on it!! I can clean a black powder revolver faster than an AR. :yuk:
cohutt
11-02-2008, 05:32 AM
You mean we are supposed to clean our guns?
dang.
I'll get back to you in a day or two on the original question.
Steve Koski
11-02-2008, 05:39 AM
The first hardest is the AR.
Personally I think the AR platform is a pain to clean. The locking lugs for the rotating bolt is a real pain.
AR cleaning SUCKS!
Steve Koski
11-02-2008, 05:44 AM
And the MKIII sucks too. However, after a few times through it, you learn what doesn't need to be cleaned, and you improvise tools for the friggin' nooks and crannies.
my cleaning method for my two Mk IIIs is to hose them down good with CLP and then blow them out with canned air. they are without a doubt the hardest firearms i've ever took apart to clean. to make it even harder i can't remember how to get them apart or back together without going back to the manual.
Glooooock
11-02-2008, 08:19 AM
+1 on spray and air cleaning method .
As a kid I disassembled a Rem. 11 " "browning semi auto knock off ". What a Zoo I had 3 punches a cleaning rod , holding a spring in with the chop stick in my mouth. I still wake up in a cold sweat thinking about that job.
MullahElRon
11-02-2008, 09:44 AM
You could shoot the Ruger 22 auto till it stopped, take the grips off, and give it the brake cleaner douche. A little oil, and choke it again. I break mine down now and then, really not an issue.
MONTEGOD7SS
11-02-2008, 02:55 PM
You all clean .22s? Never have thought about doing that. Maybe I will give it a try sometime, but I doubt it.
sparky241
11-02-2008, 03:04 PM
i hate cleaning the cetme. no matter how hard i try it just isnt ever clean
yammerschooner
11-02-2008, 03:33 PM
You all clean .22s? Never have thought about doing that. Maybe I will give it a try something, but I doubt it.
The fliers were really flying. At first I thought they were bouncing off of the target into the middle of the pond behind it.
A lot of lead came out of the barrel.
MullahElRon
11-02-2008, 03:49 PM
Buncha dag nasty .22 LR been made, sold and shot for sure.
craig110
11-02-2008, 03:57 PM
You all clean .22s? Never have thought about doing that. Maybe I will give it a try something, but I doubt it.
When I shot .22s (now, granted, this was at a competitive level and was a few decades ago when, perhaps, the .22LRs were dirtier) we had a strict rule that if you put even a single round downrange, you cleaned the gun when you were done with it. Sometimes the team leader would even spot-check the final patches to make sure that nobody was shirking this duty.
MakeMineaP99
11-02-2008, 04:06 PM
I don't understand how y'all find cleaning a Garand to be so difficult.
PCFlorida
11-02-2008, 05:35 PM
When I shot .22s (now, granted, this was at a competitive level and was a few decades ago when, perhaps, the .22LRs were dirtier) we had a strict rule that if you put even a single round downrange, you cleaned the gun when you were done with it. Sometimes the team leader would even spot-check the final patches to make sure that nobody was shirking this duty.
Yep, me too! Same time frame too. Late 70's for me.
nitesite
11-02-2008, 05:52 PM
For the .17HMR and .22 LR, weedeater line with one end sharpened and the other end melted flat to tightly fit the bore (when a correctly sized patch is pushed onto it) is a good thing.
Particularly when your only option with a rod is to clean it from the muzzle.
Brass Nazi
11-02-2008, 06:04 PM
I hate cleaning my phased plasma rifle. Especially my 40watt model.
Oh, and I hate cleaning the gas pistons from autoloading shotguns.
ISUSteve
11-02-2008, 06:11 PM
I don't understand how y'all find cleaning a Garand to be so difficult.
The first few times I did it, I don't remember having any trouble. Now, it takes me a few tries. Sometimes, I get a pair of channel locks to get a good grip.
MakeMineaP99
11-02-2008, 07:27 PM
Channel locks? Damn it man, you are ham handed.
yammerschooner
11-02-2008, 07:30 PM
He uses a Lee Press too.
Brass Nazi
11-02-2008, 07:32 PM
I use channel locks to pull bullets.
ISUSteve
11-02-2008, 07:35 PM
He uses a Lee Press too.
That means I have finesse. You have to with the Loadmaster.
MakeMineaP99
11-02-2008, 07:35 PM
That's OK, but wrenching on a piece of history with pliers? A...no.
ISUSteve
11-02-2008, 07:42 PM
I put a towel around it so I don't gouge it. A Garand isn't meant to be babied anyway.
creophus
11-03-2008, 07:41 AM
The 10/22 is a big pain to clean. My HiPoint carbine isn't much fun to clean either.
Steve Koski
11-03-2008, 10:14 AM
Steve - Abba ROCKS, just so you know.
ISUSteve
11-03-2008, 11:35 AM
Friday night and the lights are low.
No, AB8A is bad. I'm just happy I never had to go see Mama Mia.
GLOCKENNBOOMER
11-03-2008, 01:38 PM
Can't believe that NOBODY has mentioned anything with blackpowder.
MullahElRon
11-03-2008, 01:40 PM
Enema bag fulla Hot soapy water...
ISUSteve
11-03-2008, 02:11 PM
Can't believe that NOBODY has mentioned anything with blackpowder.
Blackpowder is easy. I take the barrel off of the gun and clean it in the bathtub.
GLOCKENNBOOMER
11-03-2008, 02:13 PM
rubber duckie...rubber duckie....
I've got me a .54 cal Hawken I need to get out and play with..haven't shot it in awhile.....My big boom stick...I've really got a soft spot in my heart though for cap-n'-ball revolvers.
MullahElRon
11-03-2008, 03:50 PM
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MONTEGOD7SS
11-03-2008, 05:02 PM
Can't believe that NOBODY has mentioned anything with blackpowder.
Man my Knight couldn't be any easier. Take the whole shooting match to the bathtub and scrubadubdub all the way through with the bolt and breach plug taken out. I love blackpowder!
Steel Talon
11-03-2008, 11:59 PM
Ruger 22/45
BigSlick
11-04-2008, 12:27 AM
Grendel or the Mini 14 ;)
MullahElRon
11-04-2008, 12:50 AM
Nylon 66s the only shootin' thangs I got that's "special". Even then, you just got to know how to treat 'em.
Ditto the AR. I hate cleaning the breech lockup section. Next time I'm tempted to hose it down with cleaner, scrub and throw a Maxi Pad on it!! I can clean a black powder revolver faster than an AR. :yuk:
Can't believe that NOBODY has mentioned anything with blackpowder.
I did. BP is FARRRRRRRRRRR easier to clean than smokeless powder. All you really need is soap & water and some brushing. I can clean a BP revolver in 10 mins. or less & rifles quicker.
gokyo
11-04-2008, 09:13 AM
I did. BP is FARRRRRRRRRRR easier to clean than smokeless powder. All you really need is soap & water and some brushing. I can clean a BP revolver in 10 mins. or less & rifles quicker.
I am supposed to clean my BP weapons. I never saw no cowboys cleaning theirs.
If John wayne did not have to clean his guns neither do I.
ISUSteve
11-04-2008, 09:16 AM
You never saw John Wayne get a prostate exam either. Just sayin'.
Gashira
11-04-2008, 02:33 PM
I love my AR but it's a PITA to clean, mainly because it's too big to sit on my cleaning mat.
And the wife doesn't appreciate me using solvent and the garden hose in the living room.
I see a lot of you guys complaining about cleaning AR's but in another thread someone mentioned a gas-piston upper & the idea was totally dismissed. I thought that was the point of a gas-piston design- to keep things cleaner?
yammerschooner
11-06-2008, 05:02 AM
I love my AR but it's a PITA to clean, mainly because it's too big to sit on my cleaning mat.
And the wife doesn't appreciate me using solvent and the garden hose in the living room.
http://www.plastixplustx.com/ar15/ar15.html
I have a cleaning stand that I picked up when a friend put together a group buy. It is a good product.
jtrade
11-06-2008, 05:28 PM
My 10/22 is easy as pie to clean. Can be taken completely apart in 10 minutes or less.
+1 on the Mini's. PITA!!!!!!
J
The 10/22 is a big pain to clean. My HiPoint carbine isn't much fun to clean either.
MullahElRon
11-06-2008, 06:27 PM
My Mini stays real clean.
:supergrin:
jawjaboy
11-06-2008, 06:51 PM
My Mini stays real clean.
:supergrin:
:ttiwwop:
killarbb
11-06-2008, 10:37 PM
My Mini stays real clean.
:supergrin:
so you dont shoot it huh?
ProjectFocusFas
11-11-2008, 06:48 AM
I don't have problems cleaning my 10/22 either, it's so simple.
RugerFan58
11-11-2008, 11:22 AM
Ruger MK 111 and SKS.
CZ93X62
11-12-2008, 06:04 PM
The Ruger 22/45 is kind of a PITA, all right. That weed-eater line bit will be a big help with the Mini-14, never thought of that for 22s. I HATE to run a cleaning rod in through the muzzle.
Worst-ever for me is the Winchester 290, a 22 LR self-loader from the early post-'64 era. Wrassling the recoil spring and guide rod into place with the bolt is a Mach III mofo. One day a few years back I was in a hobby shop with my nephews getting some gas airplane parts, and found some plastic scale-model girders intended for model railroading. These I-beam things feed the spring and guide into the action just like they were built to do it.
creophus
11-12-2008, 08:21 PM
Are you guys removing the barrel from the receiver of your 10/22s???
yammerschooner
11-12-2008, 08:49 PM
I don't
I've read about folks drilling the receiver somehow to make cleaning easier, but I will never do it.
MakeMineaP99
11-12-2008, 08:55 PM
It's good stress relief for the receiver, if you need an excuse.
Dark Horse
11-12-2008, 10:59 PM
10/22 Boresnake so you can brush it if needed and weedeater line to drag patches. I don't like to remove the barrel and Don't like the idea of drilling the receiver.
Its faster than than running the cleaning rod though the bolt gun
BigSlick
11-12-2008, 11:09 PM
Foam it with Hoppes, wait a little
Two patches, comes out clean
ProjectFocusFas
11-13-2008, 07:08 AM
I just use a cheapo walmart cleaning kit and Hoppes solvent and oil. I don't take the barrel off.
I would like to get a synthetic rod though so I don't chew up the barrel.
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