Lee 7.62x39 Pacesetter Rifle Die Instruction Sheet?

[jtrade]

Anyone have the instruction sheet for a set of Lee 7.62x39 Pacesetter Rifle Dies? I got a set of dies but no instruction sheet. I think I have the Expander/Sizer die screwed down a little to far.

Lil help please...

J

[Washington,D.C.]

Many 7.62x39 dies include two expanders. One for .308" and one for.311" bullets. The one for .311" might be useful with cast bullets but with jacketed bullets, both .311" and .308" I use the .308" expander as the .311" seems a bit loose even with .311" jacketed bullets.

[JW6108]

I don't have the Pacesetter dies, but this is what I have for the other kind; I would imagine instructions would be pretty much the same. I have a single stage Lyman press and with all my dies, I adjust so that the sizing die (except tungsten carbide) just touches the shellholder as I raise the ram, finishing the stroke by bottoming out the handle so that the shellholder will wind up slightly away from the die. Hope this helps.

[jtrade]

Yes it has two expanders, I'm using the one that measures .307".

I should have been more specific, I did not know if the expander die needs to touch the shellholder.

J

Many 7.62x39 dies include two expanders. One for .308" and one for.311" bullets. The one for .311" might be useful with cast bullets but with jacketed bullets, both .311" and .308" I use the .308" expander as the .311" seems a bit loose even with .311" jacketed bullets.

[jtrade]

Exactly what I needed! Same die set & everything (90565). Did those instructions come with your die set which is in a Red Round Case?

There is a carbide Sizer die in my set but the others 2 dies done have the carbide inserts.

Thanks!!

J

I don't have the Pacesetter dies, but this is what I have for the other kind; I would imagine instructions would be pretty much the same. I have a single stage Lyman press and with all my dies, I adjust so that the sizing die (except tungsten carbide) just touches the shellholder as I raise the ram, finishing the stroke by bottoming out the handle so that the shellholder will wind up slightly away from the die. Hope this helps.

[Washington,D.C.]

I'm using Hornady dies for 7.62x39 but here are some basic instructions.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/adjust_reloading_dies.htm

[jtrade]

Perfect! I printed them both out. Guess I did have the expander die adjusted correctly.

Many thanks!

J

I'm using Hornady dies for 7.62x39 but here are some basic instructions.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/adjust_reloading_dies.htm

[JW6108]

Yes, it sizes it down going in and the expander ball pulls back through the neck on the way out to whatever diameter it happens to be. My die is set so that approximately .20" of the decapping pin extends beyond the die body, which should be enough to decap most 7.62x39 brass you are liable to run up on. I've gone out farther than that when decapping crimped primers, like in .30-06, .308, but I prefer to use a Lee decapping pin and base for such as that. It's a little hammer job, but it works and you aren't risking snapping a pin in your die. RCBS, Lyman and probably most others have a separate decapping pin, so if you break one of those you can take the die apart, unscrew the expander ball and put in a new pin. Of course, if that happens with a Lee it isn't the end of the world; you will then have to use the decapper/base and then make the trip through the die with the primer already removed (not so bad).

[JW6108]

Mine are in the square box, I bought the factory crimp die separately. There shouldn't be any tungsten carbide components to your die set; is it the factory crimp die you are looking at?

[jtrade]

No, the expanding/sizing die. I was mistaken. I thought it had a carbide insert but it does look different than my Pistol Dies, both RCBS & Lee with Carbide Sizing Dies.

I have the Pacesetter 3 die set that comes in a Round Red Die Holder/Box.

Mine are in the square box, I bought the factory crimp die separately. There shouldn't be any tungsten carbide components to your die set; is it the factory crimp die you are looking at?

[Tailgunner]

Carbide inserts in a bottleneck die is a waste of good carbide, as it would serve no purpose (other than jacking up the price of the die).
Look again, I'm betting your seeing something else.

[jtrade]

Yep, I was mistaken. I updated my other post to reflect that. Talk about feeling stupid as hell.

I wasn't using case lube either cause I thought they were carbide damn good thing none of them got screwed up.

J

Carbide inserts in a bottleneck die is a waste of good carbide, as it would serve no purpose (other than jacking up the price of the die).
Look again, I'm betting your seeing something else.

[JW6108]

That will be good.

Have you gotten any powder lined up? I've used IMR 4198 and AA1680, both have worked well for me with any bullet weight I've fooled with but the AA goes through the measure without crunching.

[jtrade]

Not yet. I have several thousands of Steel Cased rounds which I normally shoot through my AK's & SKS's. I just so happen to trade a extra Lee 9mm 3-die set I had for 2 x AR15 Mags, 50 x 7.62x39 Brass (New Winchester) & 50 Bullets (which I have no idea what brand they are or weight).

Tomorrow I am going to order a digital scale as the Lee Safety Scale JJB gave me works but is a pain to use.

I'll have to try AA1680 & IMR 4198 when I get my scale.

Thanks,

J

That will be good.

Have you gotten any powder lined up? I've used IMR 4198 and AA1680, both have worked well for me with any bullet weight I've fooled with but the AA goes through the measure without crunching.