You will notice that all the tips and tricks...

[HiddenEyes]

Apply to the LnL.

If you just buy a Dillon it will practically set up and run itself.:yesnod:



Mr. HE:cool:

[Bush Pilot]

Do you think a Load Master is equal to a 550?, could these tips apply?

[MakeMineaP99]

Apply to the LnL.

If you just buy a Dillon it will practically set up and run itself.:yesnod:



Mr. HE:cool:

Sorry, unlike Dillon users, we think outside the box.

[VN350X10]

You guys think outside the box only because the directions are printed there......


uncle albert

[bhawkeye]

If some of you sorry ass Dillon users would get off your a**es & try to help some of the Dillon newbies... Oh no, that's right if they have trouble they can just call Dillon for help. :supergrin:

Actually, Hornady support guys are pretty helpful too. I just thought posts about issues you might run into could help some new users avoid that level of frusration.

When you're new (at least with me) you think - "maybe it's something I did wrong" & spend way too much time agonizing & double checking, to be sure you don't wind up looking stupid. And I've read enough to know that even Dillon presses have this kind of issues. With Dillon, it's even worse - 'cause everyone says "Dillon is great", "never had a problem with my Dillon", yada, yada, yada.

Truth is - EVERYONE has issues sometimes. I think our job is to help those that are just starting to avoid feeling frustrated or getting discouraged when they find out that you don't just unbox the press, bolt it to your bench & start pulling the handle.

Seriously, I think some of the Dillon experts should jump in & start some serious "help the newbie" posts about setting up & fine tuning their Dillon presses. After all, isn't part of the "mission statement" for this site?

I know that the knowledge exists on this site to make the best "tips & tricks" posts anywhere - so let's see some action guys.:seeya:

[Shadowdog500]

:iagree:

It would be nice to have newbie setup guidelines for the 550. The one thing that I picked up online that was not in the manual was how to adjust the powder return spring so that the shell plate advances properly with no cases in it and a primer in the cup. I'm sure there are a few other things that aren’t in the manual.

I do have to say that, so far I have loaded just under 2000 rounds on my 550 and have not had a single issue.

Chris

[lcarreau]

The Dillon presses actually come with a pretty good manual. The LNL might too. I have not seen it. The instructions for the LM suck. I figured thats why LM users like to write instructions for each other.

-Lonnie

[Shadowdog500]

The Dillon presses actually come with a pretty good manual. The LNL might too. I have not seen it. The instructions for the LM suck. I figured thats why LM users like to write instructions for each other.

-Lonnie

I think everyone agrees that the LM manual sucks. I personally think this is the biggest problem with the LM. You almost have to figure out the press in spite of the manual. However, once you do figure it out it does work as advertised.

The Dillon manual is excellent. The one thing I really liked was that it showed the setup as a series of pictures, with associated text. I literally just followed the pictures, and read the text after I had it all set up, to ensure I had it right. It has been suggested that the new user written Loadmaster manual follow the Dillon format. Someone even circulated the Dillon 550 manual link to the authors to possibly use as a template. Hopefully when the manual is completed, allot of the setup problems, and associated learning curve will go away.

Thanks,

Chris

[Tailgunner]

Instructions, we don't need no stinking instructions.

What would some of you guys do back in the 70's? IE: before Al Gore invented the internet, and you actually had to figgure things out on your own?

[MakeMineaP99]

The Dillon presses actually come with a pretty good manual. The LNL might too. I have not seen it. The instructions for the LM suck. I figured thats why LM users like to write instructions for each other.

-Lonnie

The Hornady instruction manual sucks! We should put together a new one and sell it back to Hornady.

[lcarreau]

The Hornady instruction manual sucks! We should put together a new one and sell it back to Hornady.


Maybe Hornady and Lee could just outsource it to the tech writers at Dillon. :smilewinkgrin:

[thorn]

The Hornady instruction manual sucks! We should put together a new one and sell it back to Hornady.

It really is pretty bad... i just took another look at it to refresh my memory. The installation workflow is all over the place. Steps that should happen first are listed after the steps that follow... the diagrams have twice as many arrows and annotations as needed, giving pointless detail leading to confusion.

It wouldn't be that difficult to write and produce a new one, though I wonder if it would be worth the time and effort to do so. Though the manual has it's many failings, once you've set up the press you've learned how it works and never have to do it again.

Though if Hornady offers us a nice check, I'll be happy to do the layout. ;)

thorn

[Frostback]

The Dillon presses actually come with a pretty good manual. The LNL might too. I have not seen it. The instructions for the LM suck. I figured thats why LM users like to write instructions for each other.

Real men don't need instructions! (insert smiley here)

Frosty

[colorado4wheel]

:iagree:

It would be nice to have newbie setup guidelines for the 550. The one thing that I picked up online that was not in the manual was how to adjust the powder return spring so that the shell plate advances properly with no cases in it and a primer in the cup. I'm sure there are a few other things that aren’t in the manual.


The manual says to barely tighten the wing nut. Over the phone tech say to tighten it till it's almost completely compressed with the handle full forward in the prime postilion. Only thing I found not 100% accurate in the instructions.

[Brass Nazi]

Maybe Hornady and Lee could just outsource it to the tech writers at Dillon. :smilewinkgrin:

:sifone::biggrinjester::supergrin::thumbsup::cornu t::rofl::cheers2::bigun2:

[rico567]

Those who design and engineer good products are rarely tech writers, and good tech writers are rare, period. Dillon's manuals are good, but possibly over-detailed. My 650 manual could stand a rewrite. RCBS documentation is competently written and adequate. Lee documentation is....in a class by itself. The best way to describe it is that all the information needed is generally there, it just doesn't seem very organized.

[zdogk9]

Dillon users buy "Playboy" for the articles, and Dillon for the calender.

[2400]

What would some of you guys do back in the 70's? IE: before Al Gore invented the internet, and you actually had to figgure things out on your own?

I just read the "how to load" part in 2 manuals, set up my Rock Crusher, adjusted my dies, zeroed my scale, set my powder measure and started loading. Been doing fine ever since. :supergrin:

[Steve Koski]

Do you think a Load Master is equal to a 550?, could these tips apply?
No, the LM is the "finest reloader made." There are no claims of equality.

[TwoShot]

No, the LM is the "finest reloader made." There are no claims of equality.


Not ah!:thumbsup: My Dillon is gooder.:rofl:

[ramon]

You guys think outside the box only because the directions are printed there......


uncle albert


:rofl: