Anyone got a spare AR buffer retainer detent?

[Oreo]

Or know of an on-line store that has one in stock?

I managed to piece together an entire AR lower parts kit (without getting ripped off) by buying all the individual parts separately from a few different places. The only piece I haven't found yet is the buffer retainer detent.

[MakeMineaP99]

Weld it. ;)

[Oreo]

:rolleyes5:

[freakshow10mm]

I don't have any right now. A good place to get small parts is Riflegear.com.

[rwblue01]

Is it worth while for people to build there own LPK, or did you have acesss to spare parts and it was just a matter of finding a few items?

I mean do you reccomend everyone go this route or would you reccomend we just spend the money on the LPK?

[Oreo]

Well... I guess it depends on where you shop & what you're looking for. You gotta do your own math.

I wanted a match grade trigger, winter trigger guard, & a pistol grip of my own choosing. So I was going to buy those items separately anyway. What was left was not more expensive then a regular LPK. Maybe about the same, maybe a little less. I also managed to squeeze in some stainless pins & such at that price, so I got a little more then the basic LPK, & I paid a little more also.

My goal is to have one complete AR before Obama gets in office, or shortly there after. I'm willing to pay a little bit of a premium to have items sooner then later but I'm not going to bend over & get taken either. So, I feel I got my money's worth.

[MakeMineaP99]

Why did you go stainless on the pins?

[jawjaboy]

Why did you go stainless on the pins?

Fair question.

I certainly not a gunsmith by any stretch a folly, but I do have 30 years of stainless steel products under me belt.

Mating of stainless on stainless is fantastic.

Mating of stainless on mild, hardened, and forged steel does not work. Nope.

Stainless will gall all a da afore mentioned. It a work, seems like, til ya go ta take it apart. Dat a be when ya get all pist off. Word.

Be careful out there.

Jes say'n Big O.

[freakshow10mm]

Is it worth while for people to build there own LPK, or did you have acesss to spare parts and it was just a matter of finding a few items?

I mean do you reccomend everyone go this route or would you reccomend we just spend the money on the LPK?
You can build a LPK by buying all the individual parts. This might be more expensive if you get them from different places (shipping costs). Right now it might not be a bad idea because lowers, uppers, and parts kits are hard to come by.

[freakshow10mm]

An AR lower is 7000 series aluminum. If your SS pins rotate they will wear on the trigger/hammer holes and enlarge them over time.

[Brass Nazi]

Has anyone ever manafactured a steel AR receiver?

[ISUSteve]

The whole rotating pin thing is just hype.

[Oreo]

ARgh!! See, these are the mistakes a newb makes. I saw stainless for a couple bucks more & thought it would be better quality. Guess not. Guess I'll be adding in some regular pins along with my order for a buffer retainer. I gotta call them people though. The website wants to charge me $9 shipping for a $1 part that will fit taped onto a post card. :shocked:

[MONTEGOD7SS]

I despise companies that think shipping is another way to make profit. To me, the price is what you charge me and shipping is how much it costs YOU to get it to me. That is a big reason why I hate eBay so much.

[freakshow10mm]

Shipping charges aren't shipping costs. There is a good deal of overhead to deal with shipping an order. You get charged shipping costs plus some overhead. The shipping price is exactly what it takes for the company to process the order, pack the order, and present it for shipping. That is what it costs them. That's what they charge.

Companies have to buy boxes, envelopes, paper for invoices, labels for shipping, ink for the printers, pay wages and taxes on top of those (I actually pay $10-11 per hour for paying an employee minimum wage of $7.65/hr). Most customers want tracking information emailed to them. That takes overhead of its own as well as an employee to check the tracking, match it with the order, verify the order, send the tracking information. Also if the customer loses the email, they have to resend it. They will deal with answering the email, taking time from processing other orders to take care of the customer that insists on them emailing the tracking information again while they are on the phone.

All that stuff costs money. If I charge $12.50 to ship something that weighs a pound or two it's usually $5-7 actual freight, another $2 for insurance, and a few bucks to cover the box, tape, label, ink, paper for the invoice, etc. A company is foolish to charge actual shipping on orders unless they compensate with higher markup. They usually don't survive long. I used to run actual shipping. For every single customer that was price shopping they'd ask me what shipping to ____ would cost. Got to be too much so I went table rate shipping based on weight of the item. Now I have more free time to build rifles and process orders.

It's a free market. Shop around. If you don't like the way a company charges their shipping, buy elsewhere. Chances are they will do the same thing.

[ISUSteve]

Agreed, but when I pay $8 to ship something small, that ain't right.

[MakeMineaP99]

Back to the stainless pins, aren't the pins normally O1 drill rod or similar?

[freakshow10mm]

Same as with reloading suff and hazmat. Buy in bulk to spread it out. Buying one small part with a company that charges $8-12 shipping at that point won't get you anywhere. Toss in a few more things like mags, etc and it's all good.

CDNN has flat rate shipping of $17.98 for accessories. I just ordered 30 AK47 30rd mags, 30 AR15 20 and 30rd mags, 30 Tommy Gun mags, 30 Uzi mags, 10 AK drums, a few dozen Glock and SIG mags. About $2K worth of mags. $18 to ship. I know damn well TX to MI for about a 30lb box is about $30 without insurance. If I'm ordering something small like a $1 part, I'll order 15-20 of them.

[PCFlorida]

Or know of an on-line store that has one in stock?

I managed to piece together an entire AR lower parts kit (without getting ripped off) by buying all the individual parts separately from a few different places. The only piece I haven't found yet is the buffer retainer detent.

Del-ton lists one

http://www.del-ton.com/AR_15_Buffer_Detent_p/lp1046.htm

[MakeMineaP99]

The whole rotating pin thing is just hype.

Get yourself a registered receiver run a non-ramp Colt SMG bolt in it, you'll have egg shaped holes before long.

Not hype.

[Oreo]

If you can't get a $1 part in the mail for less then $10 you have an efficiency problem, or more likely, a website problem. I don't need tracking or even a confirmation email at that price. $2 shipping, OK, more then that is getting a little ridiculous. Delton lists shipping for that part at < $0.50.

Another question about these stainless Trigger & Hammer pins... if the regular pins are just cheap steel, aren't they still harder then the aluminum receiver & thus will have the same wear problems you guys are saying the stainless will have? I originally ordered the KNS match grade trigger & hammer pins. (And a Geissele DMR trigger if that makes any difference.)

[ISUSteve]

An AR isn't a SMG.

[rwblue01]

Has anyone ever manafactured a steel AR receiver?


Yes, there are Stainless AR-15s and M16 out there.

I do not buy non-rotation pins for my ARs. I just don't shoot enough to see the egg hole issue. If a ban is put in place so I can not get a new AR-15, I will buy those pins.

[rwblue01]

Oreo,
Is this a SHTF rifle?
Which trigger?

There are some tiggers that are not something you would want if your life depended on it. There are also some great triggers out there.

[Oreo]

I would have to say this is not a SHTF rifle. This is a target rifle. But I'd like it to be maintained well enough that I can reconfigure it for SHTF duty if that day ever comes. SO....

I am thinking of buying things focused on quality & durability. I want to treat it as if this is the last AR I'll ever be able to buy legally. So, it seems like those anti-rotation pins might offer some peace of mind.

[ISUSteve]

http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cat=11

[Oreo]

OK, I bought the buffer retainer from Delton. I also bought the anti-rotation pins from PK firearms. I love those guys man. I've placed a few orders with them since this madness started & they reliably ship the very same day. I'll probably get those pins on Fri or Sat.

[freakshow10mm]

PK is good people. Del Ton is running 12-16 weeks right now. Even for your buffer retainer.

Tell ya what. I'll take one off my personal build that's pending and mail it out tomorrow. It's on me.

[Oreo]

I appreciate that Adam, but it's really not necessary. Seriously. My barrel probably won't be here till June so, it's not like that buffer retainer is keeping me from heading to the range. Not to mention I've got a handful of other parts for this build also on order from Delton.

[MakeMineaP99]

An AR isn't a SMG.

When it's chambered in 9x19 and rocks and rolls it is.