Piggies in the trap!

[Werdna]

Went huntin the other day and we had a few hogs in the trap. Their kinda small, but pigs is pigs, they all make sausage :supergrin: Just thought I'd share a couple pics with yall.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/a_macalik/graduation029.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/a_macalik/graduation030.jpg This little bugger got himself in the coon trap!

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/a_macalik/graduation032.jpg And here they are loaded up in the trailer.

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

you selling some of them that you catch? Make any money off of them?

[MONTEGOD7SS]

Man my experience with making wild hogs captive is less than stellar. Had a big ole mama true russian that did fine for a couple of weeks until she decided to knock the door off the hinges. Everybody in the neighborhood was talking bout a big ole hog tearing up they're yards, so we tracked it down and killed it. Just doing the neighborhood a favor, plus it kept em from suspecting it came from us. :)

[AdamN]

Looks like a good time for a hog roast http://www.glockpost.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=53&pictureid=253

[MakeMineaP99]

You going to try that .41 mag out on them?

[Werdna]

We sell the real big ones, say 150lbs+, but right now their only fetching like 15-20 cents/lb, so we just use em for sausage right now. We dont feed them out or anything like that, costs too much. These were killed the day after we caught em, they be chillin in my buddies freezer, just havent made the sausage yet.

Yeah, once I get some different loads tested I wanna take a pig with the 41 mag. I think that would make my day, gettin in a stand and having one come within pistol range.

[BigSlick]

Mmmmmmm, fresh hog meat :thumbsup:

Little ones is especially good smoked out real nice till they crisp up a lil bit

[MONTEGOD7SS]

You got a good chance to do some boolistics testing. Each piggie goes to piggy Heaven by way of a different bullet to test out each time. You will be like brassfetcher.com, but with a Strasbourg Test sorta feel.

[jawjaboy]

Mmmmmmm, fresh hog meat :thumbsup:

Little ones is especially good smoked out real nice till they crisp up a lil bit

Dat was my line a thought too. Don't know know what da weight is but 50-75 pounds whole(dressed) crisp up purdy good. Over a hunnert pounds whole(dressed), I'd do da butcher knife one mo time. Them lil ol hams plum purdy all smoked up proper.

[nitesite]

You got a good chance to do some boolistics testing. Each piggie goes to piggy Heaven by way of a different bullet to test out each time. You will be like brassfetcher.com, but with a Strasbourg Test sorta feel.

That was the best post of the day!

[rwblue01]

I butcher my own deer, but I have not had a chance with a hog.
I would love to see how you dress them out.

[jawjaboy]

I butcher my own deer, but I have not had a chance with a hog.
I would love to see how you dress them out.

Yeah Bro W,

:ttiwwop:

[AdamN]

Ive participated in a few hog "butcherings" (domesticated) Just about like any other medium sized critter.

Someone who knows more about the specific cuts on a certain animal could certainly do a better job. I was one of several helping a guy once and he did what I considered a terrible job.

Took the word "butcher" to a whole new level.

[Werdna]

I wassnt there when they killed/dressed them. They did that friday, and I had to werk. The way we normally do it is really simple, but there is really more waste than I would like b/c we dont have a saw (well not yet). We remove the shoulders and hams, skin them/remove the feet, then remove the skin from the back, and pull the loins. This way you dont have to gut the hogs, and it goes quickly when you have so many. You can also do all this with the animal laying on the ground, dont have to string it up or anything. This is all done with a 6" boning knife, very similar to what we use at work ;)

Now ideally, I would be in there with a saw and pull the ribs, neck bones, etc and smoke em up, but I need me a little extra $$ for that hand saw. I HATE wasting good meat, guess it comes from the job lol, but for real, it kills me to see it go unused. Coyotes had a good lil feast though.

The biggest hog in these pics was maybe 90-100lbs, the others were about 20-30. I would love to have smoked one of them whole, just dont have the time or freezer space right now. Maybe closer to christmas I'll have me a lil porker on the smoker. Now that would be the perfect christmas dinner, I tell ya what.

[cohutt]

little ones= gut them, chop off all 4 legs at the knees and splay them open and cook whole over the pit. Some scald the hair off first, some just let it burn off early in the cooking.
good stuff.

In Georgia it is against the law to sell them dead or alive last I checked; can "give" them away though.

[Werdna]

In Texas you can sell them (live) to a state approved slaughter holding facility, where they will be sold to the 2 or 3 companies that slaughter wild pigs and sell the meat, mainly over seas. Its just that in the last few months, theres no money in it like there used to be.

It is however against the law now to move live hogs from one place to another, because of disease control and all.

[MakeMineaP99]

*Sound of gun shot*

What live pig were you talking about, officer?

[Pitmaster]

I butcher my own deer, but I have not had a chance with a hog.
I would love to see how you dress them out.

http://www.bdbbq.com/Butchering.ppt should open a PowerPoint file on how to butcher a hog. Graphic. I put this together a couple of years ago. If that link doesn't work you can download the file here www.bdbbq.com (http://www.glockpost.com/forums/www.bdbbq.com) Click on the "Click" link in the lower left hand corner.

[Werdna]

Awesome powerpoint! I'm friggin starving now.

[Pitmaster]

Awesome powerpoint! I'm friggin starving now.

We always have a good time with great food. All homemade and fresh. I usually stop in Atlanta and pick up a case of fresh oysters to eat and shuck for snacks. Here's a few sample picks.

[Steve Koski]

I say let them go in a shopping mall.

[MONTEGOD7SS]

PM, that third pic makes me wanna eat my monitor.

[BigSlick]

4th one real nice too.

If ya got a good oyster man, ya better stick with him like gold.

Lotta oysters around, findin a good oyster man you can trust ta eat fresh shelled is hard ta do.

Tabasco, cracker, lil bit a chow chow, all ya need

[MakeMineaP99]

Blueline just introduced me to "chow chow" the other day. That stuff ROCKS!

[MONTEGOD7SS]

Chow Chow is the shizzle. Didn't know it made it across the Mississippi.

[MakeMineaP99]

Had some in Chatt., TN Friday of last week.

[ASH]

My Dad and I used to be on a lease in the Everglades and all we would eat sometimes for 3-4 days for camp meat was wild hogs. We had freezer fulls of it. I used to take the meat and marinate it in a cooler about 2 bags of ice and a gallon of Mo Jo or Zesty Itialian with onions and jalapenos and sour oranges and such cut up in it. All we did was Go hunt in the morning and come back at around noon for lunch. Before we left to go back for afternoon hunt we would wrap some up in aluminum foil and place over hot bed of oak coals. When we returned dinner was ready, all we had to do was unwrap it and put some sauce on it on the open flame for a few minutes. I found that wrapping that meat in foil was one of the only ways of preventing it from drying out.

[rwblue01]

http://www.bdbbq.com/Butchering.ppt should open a PowerPoint file on how to butcher a hog. Graphic. I put this together a couple of years ago. If that link doesn't work you can download the file here www.bdbbq.com (http://www.glockpost.com/forums/www.bdbbq.com) Click on the "Click" link in the lower left hand corner.


Thank you that is good start. That is more than I knew. The big eye opener for me was shaving the pig (I skin my deer). You also don't debone (I do on deer). You also know your cuts (I don't).

Talk to me about preps for the table.
How do you cut the baccon? Special tools?
How do you cut your hams? At the dinner table?


Can I get you to post it on Practical Preps?
OR
Do you mind if I post it there?

[MakeMineaP99]

The esteemed Pitmaster really knows his stuff about Cue. I never pass up a chance to get some of his cue when he's cookin'.

[Pitmaster]

Thank you that is good start. That is more than I knew. The big eye opener for me was shaving the pig (I skin my deer). You also don't debone (I do on deer). You also know your cuts (I don't).

Talk to me about preps for the table.
How do you cut the baccon? Special tools?
How do you cut your hams? At the dinner table?


Can I get you to post it on Practical Preps?
OR
Do you mind if I post it there?

Let me point out that we scald the hogs to loosen the hair, pull as much hair off as we can and then shave with a knife. Another way which we haven't done is to burn it off with a weed burner torch. That will be slightly pungent though. In Eastern Europe they will toss some hay on the hog to burn the hair off.

Which table? Butchering or dinner

Cut bacon with a knife. I do have a commercial slicer but don't use it for bacon.

Hams-Kinfe, in the kitchen, plate, and serve

Go ahead and post of Practical Preps. I'm pretty sure that is the only full color and pictorial instruction on the net.

I was going to make a video on my last trip to GA. Couldn't borrow a camera but I will for the next time I go.

[Rubric]

Mmm, them hogs is some tasty stuff...my Armenian friend made me amaaaaazing bacon the other day. I can still taste it. *happy sigh*

I've heard that sometimes people play games with pigs, such as labeling them "1," "2," and "4," and setting them loose in a high school or some other fun place. Everyone goes looking for nonexistent pig #3. :)

[BoltNut]

My Dad and I used to be on a lease in the Everglades and all we would eat sometimes for 3-4 days for camp meat was wild hogs. We had freezer fulls of it. I used to take the meat and marinate it in a cooler about 2 bags of ice and a gallon of Mo Jo or Zesty Itialian with onions and jalapenos and sour oranges and such cut up in it. All we did was Go hunt in the morning and come back at around noon for lunch. Before we left to go back for afternoon hunt we would wrap some up in aluminum foil and place over hot bed of oak coals. When we returned dinner was ready, all we had to do was unwrap it and put some sauce on it on the open flame for a few minutes. I found that wrapping that meat in foil was one of the only ways of preventing it from drying out.

Yeah man!!! That's basically how we did up those several hundred pounds of wild hog for CREOPHUS's "Man Day of all Man Days" party!!! 'Cept we also added all kinds of spices and stuff, but the citrus and Zesty Ital. are the main staple. Mmmmmmmm...

BTW, if y'all are ever down 'round mid-central-FL, there's a good ol boy named, Lee Lightsey who runs a hog huntin' bidness there. It is meshed into a gator farm business, so when they dress out a hog for you, YOU get the backstrap, front and rear hams, and if it is big enough... the ribs (if you want'em)... but the rest is all used for feeding those monster lizards in the back 40 - :yikes: ... tell'em, AJ - H-U-G-E lizards!!! :)

[creophus]

Word. I've never seen gators that big before. These things are bigger than what you'll find in any zoo.

BTW...when we going hunting again?

[BoltNut]

I'm game... let's plan it out. I've heard a few other fellers are wantin' in on things too. :)

[MakeMineaP99]

What do y'all use to gator hunt? 700 Nitro Express?

[BoltNut]

Whatever you have the nads to take'em with... no, seriously! They let you hunt the piggies however you think you can do it... gator has some laws to takin' them though, so I guess you have to follow the rules.

[creophus]

What do y'all use to gator hunt? 700 Nitro Express?Never hunted gator, so I wouldn't know. I'll bet the 06 could get the job done though.

BoltNut is right, they let you hunt hog with just about anything that's humane. Saw some schmuck use an AR in .223. You won't catch me using a .223 shooting hog.

Here in Florida wild mamals don't get that big.

Also, about how long does it take to catch pigs in a trap?

[MakeMineaP99]

Saw some schmuck use an AR in .223. You won't catch me using a .223 shooting hog.

Are you insulting the esteemed Cohutt? You just earned yourself a GA asswhoopin'.

[creophus]

I wasn't referring to Cohutt. The guy I'm talking about was a schmuck. He went hunting with a bunch of schmuck friends too.

Next time we go hunting, I'm gonna follow BoltNut's older brother's advice and take a longer shot. Either that or use a handgun. Anybody know if 44mag will work on hog?

[MakeMineaP99]

I think Cohutt may have killed one with a .44 too.

[BoltNut]

Anything larger than a .22 will kill a hog if'n done right.

Gator is taken with a bang-stick, BY LAW, so unless they do something different on private property, that's the story there.

That guy with the .223 was schmuck, and his 20 buddies too!!! :yuk:

The funnier one we saw once was a dude did it with a broadsword! :)

[MONTEGOD7SS]

Hogs in FL are little bity things that you throw rocks at as they run by. There are only about ten gazillion gators in FL, so they have hunting regulations of course. :dunno:

Biggest gator I have ever seen, or heard of, was the General or something like that at Gator Land. He was huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge, and way bigger than anything you'll ever see in the wild. I think he died and now a croc named Alf is their biggest.

[BoltNut]

You callin' our 300-400 lb piglets tiny?! Dang, where do you live... in OZ?! :)

Biggest gator I saw in the wild was when my brother and I followed one in a canal in the Glades hunting once... we were in a 16' canoe, and he was MUCH LONGER then our canoe!!! :yikes: He was awesome.

Biggest gator I've seen though (captive-ish) was on this farm. There were at least two that were pushing the limits of what people would believe you tellin' them!!! :yesnod:

[Rubric]

I have ALWAYS wanted to stuff a gator.

Just putting that out there...you know...if y'all catch one. Take out the meat, eat it (gator meat is DELICIOUS), and send me the skin. :)

[MONTEGOD7SS]

You callin' our 300-400 lb piglets tiny?! Dang, where do you live... in OZ?! :)

Biggest gator I saw in the wild was when my brother and I followed one in a canal in the Glades hunting once... we were in a 16' canoe, and he was MUCH LONGER then our canoe!!! :yikes: He was awesome.

Biggest gator I've seen though (captive-ish) was on this farm. There were at least two that were pushing the limits of what people would believe you tellin' them!!! :yesnod:

At 300-400lb that is a good start, but they're gonna look like they just walked off a farm. Javelinas are funny cuz they're fast as lightning and run around like they lost their minds. I remember when I was a kid my dad took me, my brother, himself and a friend out in the St. Johns river in Cocoa in a little 14ft Ridgeline boat that was about 1/4" from swamping itself over the transom. I still remember fishing off the bank and nailing gar to a tree to die slowly cuz my dad hates em so much. Good times.

[Werdna]

The piggies get themselves in the trap when they are good and well ready too lol. The problem we are facing now are educated hogs. The guys I hunt with have been trapping the land for about 5 years, and when the hogs see their buddies get trapped, they tend to stay out of them.

Sometimes we can set the traps in the afternoon, hunt till dark then go check them and we have some, sometimes the traps are baited for a week or more before we get something. Its real hit and miss, and there is so much land, the hogs could be anywhere. Not that I'm complaining, I have a hell of a good time every time I'm out there.

Last time we went we saw a heard of about 20-25 white tails. Neatest thing I think I have ever seen out there.