Worst auto pistol you ever owned ?

[BigSlick]

For me, without a doubt the Llama .380 mini 1911 knock off

Next worse, a Beretta 70S in .380. Beautiful gun, fit and finish simply incredible, just wouldn't feed anything, not even ball worth a damn

[Brass Nazi]

Llama 9mm 1911 knockoff.

[freakshow10mm]

Hi Power Practical.

[Steve Koski]

Every auto I've owned has been a Glock, so I'm going to have to say my first G27 which I bought used. The damned thing was a lemon. I sold it back to the dealer and bought a new G27 down the street. The second one ran flawlessly.

[Trooperdan]

For me, without a doubt the Llama .380 mini 1911 knock off




Hey 'Slick! I've never owned that little Llama .. but I've lusted after one; it is so darned cute I wanted to take it home to raise some pups! Sorry to hear it was such a disappointment! I guess I've been lucky; I can't recall a bad one!

[MullahElRon]

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[jawjaboy]

A brand new Llama 1911, 30+ years ago. Sold it fer more'n I paid fer it. Glory. Told da dude it was a pos. He jes had ta have it, I obliged wit a smile(hidden). That make me a bad peckerhead?

[SSDD45]

AMT Hardballer! This was back in the early 80's and it galled the metal very badly!

[gokyo]

Walther PPk/s and PP.

I loved the idea of the weapon. It however did not like me at all and ever shot bit me really bad.

[Mogollon]

Mullah,
The comic under the Jennings is worth more more than the Jennings ever will be. My kid works in a comic book store. :biggrinjester: That's why a bunch of my free time is spent fabricating costumes, fantasy firearms, and now a tachikoma tank for her cosplaying.

[KCGunnr]

S&W Model 39

I hated that damn thing after the 1st shot.
Couldn't wait to get rid of it.

I wanted a 1911, but the Smith was what could afford.

[CZ93X62]

Auto-Ordnance Model 1911A1, without a doubt. FORGET cast bullets, even #452374.......not real reliable with ball FMJs, either. Slide stop notch peened out after 500 rounds, wouldn't capture the slide and lock back. Total POS. A buddy of mine heard me bitching about it, and asked to buy it for a project gun--I gave it to him, and wished him well. He built a pretty decent service-grade shooter on the receiver, but I think that was the only original component.

[Phunahm]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2gtxool.jpg :rofl:LMAO I had one of those years ago

[Fatdaddy]

Walther P99QA .40S&W, beautiful gun, trigger was long, heavy and when it broke the over travel was terrible. My old Sigma had a better trigger.
My trigger finger got pinched by the trigger every time i shot it, definitely not made for "banana hands."
Kept it for 2 weeks and traded it straight up for my XD 45.
Good riddance.

[MullahElRon]

:rofl:LMAO I had one of those years agoI think it was 35 bucks in the mid 70's. Seems psychotic even now. Read a glowing review... Last Guns And Ammo I ever looked at. Farkers.

[D. Manley]

S&W Model 39

I hated that damn thing after the 1st shot.
Couldn't wait to get rid of it.

I wanted a 1911, but the Smith was what could afford.

+1. Most unreliable jam-O-matic I've owned...and, I say that while having a P3AT in my pocket daily as a BUG. Traded that sucker for a MK IV, Colt .45 Government Model...

[BIGGUNGOBOOM]

THE absolute worst gun i had was my Kimber 1911, second day out the gun started double tapping and Kimber said TOUGH LUCK. they wouldnt even touch it. then the bushing broke and sent the guide rod out the front of the gun

they will never see another dime from me so now its either glocks or revolvers

[MONTEGOD7SS]

What about the P220 you're always saying you wish you had? I will let you shoot mine if you ask nicely.

To stay on topic, I only have a P220 so I can't say I've had a "worst" one. Technically I do have some Italian .25ACP that was willed to me by my stepdad when he died so I really can't consider it bad.

[ede]

high standard victor, couldn't fire two rounds in a row without a misfeed. new mags didn't help. second worse was a G30 Glock it couldn't make it through a 100 round match without a misfeed. got a new g30 and sold the old one the next day.

[DssG19]

For me, without a doubt the Llama .380 mini 1911 knock off


+1 I had that same POS. That damm thing would shoot 3 feet low at like 5 yrds. My cousin shot it a missed the target completly. That gun was turned it and a police save the community gun buy back, I got $100 for that POS.

[918v]

Ruger P90.

It was big, ugly, and had a horrible trigger. I took it apart and stoned the engagement surfaces. It lasted a couple of rounds and started to do the same thing. The hammer hook was soft.

[Shadowdog500]

Mitchell stainless steel Luger. One or two jams in every magazine.

Chris

[creekwalker]

1.Vega, 1911 model 45acp in stainless steel
2. H&K 4 in 380 acp
3. Walther PPK/s 380 acp
Each one a lemon and waste of time and money from the beginning.

cw

[rat5545]

I bought a Bauer 25, had fake pearl handle grips, made a lot of noise but couldn't hit a barn with it. It did fit into a handgun case, so that was a plus.

[layusn1]

My worst wasn't really bad, it just pissed me off almost every time I shot it. It was a Ruger P90. It would fail to feed the last round in the mag, any mag, EVERY time I shot it...unless I smacked the loaded mag just right. I ended up trading it for an 1895 Chilean Mauser...I'm OK with that.

[BigDog[RE]]

Walther PPK/s ..380
Can you say jammomatic?

[layusn1]

Mullah,
The comic under the Jennings is worth more more than the Jennings ever will be. My kid works in a comic book store. :biggrinjester: That's why a bunch of my free time is spent fabricating costumes, fantasy firearms, and now a tachikoma tank for her cosplaying.

Thats cool, I actually owned a comic book store in San Diego before I joined the Navy. A chain of comic book stores ended up opening a store right down the street. I know how the little guy feels when the Walmarts of the world move in on them. It was a great experience and lots of fun though.

[slowride]

Believe it or not, mine was a M&P 45. I got one of the real early models, and experienced alot of FTFs.
Great ergonomics, and liked everything about it, just didn't function well. I guess I got a lemon.

[Jammer Six]

A Springfield Micro. Small 1911s are less reliable; the Micro was the weapon that taught me that.

I was stubborn. I wanted that weapon to be reliable. Now, looking back, I'm not sure why.

[Rick from kali]

hey MullahElRon,
i have a jenning's .22 also. accuracy sucked so i turned down a new barrel from the 10/22 barrel that came off of my girlfriends 10/22. turned it a little thicker too. just waiting to get a .22 chamber reamer to finish it. but the worst pistol that i ever owned has to be the .45 caliber Laser Aim Pistol. wouldn't feed or extract a round for squat. had to make a new barrel link and a bigger extractor for it. now it will feed and extract anything. now i am turning a new barrel from my stock P-14 barrel as the orignal barrel's rifling looks like it was made with a chisel.
Rick
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[Polarized]

THE absolute worst gun i had was my Kimber 1911, second day out the gun started double tapping and Kimber said TOUGH LUCK. they wouldnt even touch it. then the bushing broke and sent the guide rod out the front of the gun

they will never see another dime from me so now its either glocks or revolvers

Hey Big-

What model was it? External extractor?

As for the worst of the worst....

Hands down the Bryco 380... Thought the frame was made out old Yugo parts..:supergrin:

[CJStudent]

Hey Big-

What model was it? External extractor?

As for the worst of the worst....

Hands down the Bryco 380... Thought the frame was made out old Yugo parts..:supergrin:


I once worked for a security company that wanted to issue me a Jiminez Arms JA-NINE, which was pretty much a renamed Bryco/Jennings, from my understanding. I was gone in a month and a half (2 weeks of which was military duty anyways).

[copdills]

A Para Ordiance before they started making the whole gun, I had a para ordiance 45 acp frame with a thompson pitbull slide not a good match

[K218]

A Glock 26.. It was too small for my hands and the frame cracked also.. It had to go back for a new frame and when I got it back, I swapped it for a G-30 and havn't looked back.....

[Anvil]

Worst piece of crap I've ever had the displeasure of shooting was a S&W 4043. Aluminum frame, stainless steel brick of a slide and if you hold the gun braced with anything touching the magazine then the trigger would not depress. You would break your finger before you broke a shot!

I sold it to a "friend" for what I paid for it, no profit. He still has it and swears by it. Good for him.

[chewy]

I been lucky so far with just one lemon. And that was a Kahr PM-9. I reeealy wanted to like the pistol cuz it totted so easy, triger was fine enough, but wouldn't feed nothin' worth sqwat! Even FMJs' had issues. I put in around 500 rounds of fmjs', Carbons, home load HPs (gold dots, golden sabers) with different powders tryin' ta find that sweet load. No joy. Finally 'round that 500 round mark I started seein' the infamous barrel peening. I guess they were gettin' lots o' complaints about em' all at once.....I dunno...but customer service was crap...and I was bein' deplomatic, non-confrontational, etc.... So I took my losses and traded it in for a G-27 and could have been more satisfied.

[Helms]

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Desert eagle .50 AE- biggest piece of crap I have ever laid my hands on. Every 3-4 rounds would jam, the ones that did fire wouldnt hit paper at about 10 meters, and the magazine would periodically drop completely out of the gun due to the recoil bumping the mag release on my thumb.

To quote the movie Snatch: "I just think that pistol would do more damage if you fed it to him, thats all."

What a flaming piece of crap that thing was. Traded it in very quickly.

[Warhorse]

Sterling .22LR, without a doubt.

[SnooseGoose]

A colt defender plus. No matter what I tried (short of sending it off for a high dollar work over) I could not get it to feed a full magazine without jamming. Traded it off but reaquired it again a year later, price was right and I figured I'd try again. Still couldn't get it to work so sold it at a loss.

SG.

[layusn1]

How about a Davis Industries 380? Still have it in the sock drawer, someone said I could get $25 for it. It really isn't that bad, I would pay up to $50 for one...decent throw away gun. That is basically what it was, a cops boot gun my wife got from him for helping him out with some banking issues.

[Frost]

Llama 32
Just will not feed.
I still have it, don't know why, have not held it since putting it away.
Have not shot it in over 20 years.

[ASH]

I had a Glock 33 that was a POS. It was picky about some types of ammo, which was a surprise being a Glock. The bullets used to nosedive on it also, sometimes halfway through a mag I would get this tremendous muzzle flash and recoil. I just knew that one of those bullets had seated lower in the case and produced some crazy pressures. This was all factory ammo. I ended up trading it for a S&W 3913.

[VN350X10]

Two of them.....

AMT Hardballer, my son's 1st pistol. Rebuilt the damn thing with a Springfield barrel, Videcki trigger & a whole pile of Chip McCormick parts. Now it shoots on par with ANY 1911 out there.....10 shots in a nickel size group @ 50' from a Ransom Rest.
Only AMT parts left are slide, frame & extractor.
The galling was a nice touch, to get rid of it, I was able to lap in the slide/frame fit !

2nd lemon...
My 1st G36. Wouldn't feed, wouldn't group. Sold it to an IDPA shooter who had 3 of them already, claimed he could make it work.
the 2nd G36 I bought ran typical Glock, right out of the box. It even feeds H&G 68 SWC's !

uncle albert

[MullahElRon]

Two of them.....

AMT Hardballer...The galling was a nice touch,
Those were dark days for SS 1911s. :cheers2:

[VN350X10]

Actually, if you used the lube that AMT spec'd. for it, it worked fine.
They recomended "FP-10", this stuff is so good I use it on my other AMT...
The 180 series .44 Automag LOVES this lube. Not bad on SS revolvers either.

The fact that male offspring used WD-40 on the Hardballer didn't help, he didn't know any better (at the time).

uncle albert

[muscles]

ive had pretty good luck w/ the 30 or so handguns ive owned. id say the most problematic was a taurus 745 pro. the mags would drop during fire, regardless of how i adjusted my grip. finally got rid of it rather than sending it back to taurus. not worth the horror stories i'd read about with their customer service.

[ustate]

Mine was a Jennings .380 which I bought as a college student when I just wanted more guns, not caring abuot what kind they were. That thing along with a Lorcin .25 my wife was given but was never fired were sold off about 5 years ago, was happy to get rid of them.

[degoodman]

Stoeger made High Standard Pro Series 95.

Decent accuracy, but simply would not feed well with anything I tried. Ran through ammo from the top of the pile to the bottom, everything failed. Went through the magazine adjustment proceedure many times, no dice. (High standards are very sensitive to the feel lips, and they need tweaked) Some ran high, some ran low, rarely did it do 3 magazines without a jam. even when loaded with 5/mag (lots of the high standards didn't really like full magazines as they were primarily bullseye guns, and those only take 5 rounds).

Got out a little bit more than I put in. Someone else wanted it that thought he could fix its ills, despite my full disclosure. More power to him, and good riddance. Had several others high standards and variants since, but that one sucked.

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

Mine was a Jennings Bryco Mod 59 9mm....You had to keep your thumb on the safety ,because if you didn't and you fired the gun ,the recoil would put it back on safe. The only thing it would remotely feed reliably was ball ammo, even then that was iffy. I used to keep a round in the chamber until I actually took the gun apart and saw how the firing pin was held back....think of a thumbtack, pressed up against a spring with a thin little piece of metal. Did several drop tests on it and it failed miserably. Next worse was a old Llama 1911 .45 , wouldn't feed nothing right.

[Coloradoglocker]

Haven't had any issues with my autos so I guess I have to pass.

[Rick]

Bryco .380
Right after High School working in a convenience store. I carried it in my boot for protection.:rofl:
Glad I never had to pull it out. Probably would have heard a loud "CLICK"

[myg30]

My first and worst pos was a Stallard arms 9mm, think they sell now under the name of "Hi point". Take down you need to punch out the roll pins,the ejector was soft[chipped]. New it sold for $149.00 in 1992, now $159 in 2008. Go figure !!

Mike

[blueline541]

For me, without a doubt the Llama .380 mini 1911 knock off


I got called to a motel suicide where a fella splattered his brains on the wall with this same gun. I'd never seen one before and thought it was a cool little gun that obviously worked well.


My worst was an Interarms Egyptian made imitation Beretta 9. It was given to me and I understand why.

[RustyFN]

Been lucky, haven't had a POS yet. I have a Ruger Mark III 22, CZ 75BD Police, Glock 17, Ruger GP-100 357 mag and Rock Island Armory 1911 45 ACP. I like them all.
Rusty

[Tbonekilla]

Lorcin .25acp. What a hunk of ****. It didn't even have rifling in the barrel. Smooth bore. I think I lost it lol.

I see a lot of Llamas listed. I used a Llama 1911 compact in .38super for CCW class. Worked great and was accurate. Maybe it was their only good one heh.

[Bogey]

A brand new Llama 1911, 30+ years ago. Sold it fer more'n I paid fer it. Glory. Told da dude it was a pos. He jes had ta have it, I obliged wit a smile(hidden). That make me a bad peckerhead?



Well JJB....I guess cuz ain't no one else jumped on this, I gots ta.

It makes you a GOOD peckerhead. :supergrin:


As to the OP....I ain't never had a bad semi auto.

[Jammer Six]

I wanna know what a peckerhead is, so I can decide if I aspire to be one, or if I need to load special peckerhead rounds.

[Bogey]

I wanna know what a peckerhead is, so I can decide if I aspire to be one, or if I need to load special peckerhead rounds.


Hmmmm....you may be on to something Jammer.


Peckerhead Magnums?:idea:

[Jammer Six]

"NOBODY MOVE, OR THE PECKER... HEAD... GETS IT!

I dunno... :willy_nilly:

I think it lost something in translation.

[okie]

Calico M-100. It was the biggest jam-O-matic I have ever seen:cryin:

[chewy]

Is that them 100 round tubular magazine jobbers okie? If so, I was wonderin' how they function...and why the one I was fiddlin' with was in the used section.

[okie]

Thats the one my friend, it would fire 2 maybe 3 rounds then jam:banghead:Is that them 100 round tubular magazine jobbers okie? If so, I was wonderin' how they function...and why the one I was fiddlin' with was in the used section.

[ISUSteve]

Kel-Tec P3AT. That POS has had 1 FTE in 500 rounds due to me limp-wristing it.

I've had great luck with autos, never had a problem.

[chewy]

Damn. Guess we all got our "seemed like a good idea at the time" guns.

[callahan318]

XD was terrible. Stovepiped at least once a mag and had serious feeding issues. I went with Glock and never looked back.

[BckHntr]

Beretta 92fs, damn thing would stovepipe on every other round. I tried different mags nothing, finally got sick of it and traded it for a PT1911.

[Clicker]

Daewoo DP51, the thing had a neat trigger system and functioned fined.
However you couldn't hit the same spot twice with it. I mean it shot all over the target, had to be an issue with the barrel & slide lock up.
traded it off at the shop I purchased it from.

[CoffeeOps]

Kel-tec P3-AT (the .380).

After putting 150 target loads and 25 Gold Dots (all GDs worked fine) I carried it for a month and a half. Goto the range and shoot what I've carried for that duration. CLICK, tap, rack,..., tap, rack,..., tap, rack,... all light primer strikes.

Returned it to the factory, they shipped it back fast enough to make me happy. I immediately sold it to my roommate (yes, he knew the history). **** that gun.

[Glooooock]

I believe a lot is operator error , or ammo related . I have to agree that the S&W 39 gave me fits .I figure it was sooo close to a 52 in design it had to be a tack driver .

Its the first time I remember cussing in three languages , after shooting that POS.

[VN350X10]

Gloooook, remember, Lincoln Conti's & Edsels were made by the same company.....

Just 'cause it's a sibling don't mean a thing !

[MONTEGOD7SS]

Edsels were too advanced for their time. They might as well a been the Space Shuttle cuz folks just weren't ready for something like that. That being said, I love Edsels!

[VN350X10]

Oldsmobile sucking on a Lemon I believe is the correct term......

They DID seem to be popular on the Planet Michigan however.

They were no more "advanced" than any other U.S. made tank of the late 50's/early 60's.
Sad to say, our auto industry was only advanced in production practices, not engineering of the cars built.
For advanced back then, you needed a Citreon(sp) or a SAAB
Even VW was more advanced (by far)

(end of rant, off soapbox now)

uncle

[Glooooock]

Oldsmobile sucking on a Lemon I believe is the correct term......

I remember back to my commercial fishing days . Phrases like ( cleaned up for this post ) I wouldn't urinate on it if it was on fire .

I always loved the skipper screaming at a Korean boat not 30 yds along side , " You motherless bastard get the """" out of here , on the 500 watt PA system ( after he tampered with our gear ) .

Good times.

[kidcop]

:akfa:I owned a S&W Sigma for a very short period of time. It didn't jam, it just wouldn't go off. Lousey trigger to boot.

Currently my jam-o-matic is a Erma LA-22. Looks like a Luger in .22. It does fine when it's clean. It's no longer clean after the first mag. Still, it's a hoot to shoot.

[4eyes]

Llama 1911 in 38 super. Had the original Colt chambering on the rim. Would only hit the barn if I was inside.

[fnfalman]

My jammamatic was the Tangfolio rip-off of the CZ-75. The damn thing was unnaturally accurate but it jammed every three or four rounds regardless of what brands of ammo and bullet weights.

[Randyc74]

#1 AMT Backup .380 Jammed at least once per magazine.

#2 Walther PPKS .380 Almost as bad as the AMT.

Neither pistol would reliably feed anything including ball ammo.

[wrangler5]

Had one of those tip up barrel 22s that never fed an entire magazine without a jam. Beretta-like design but I think it was a Taurus. I was actually sorry to get rid of it because it was a neat little gun. Too bad it didn't work.

But the gun I have been most glad to get rid of was a KelTec P-11. Although it worked, I absolutely hated shooting it and was perfectly delighted when a friend decided, even after full disclosure, that he wanted it. (I do carry a P3AT from time to time - don't like shooting it much either, but it does its job when needed.)

[Husker Tanker]

I had a Ramline .22 LR pistols that was awful. Sold it quickly.

Mitchell Arms 1911 was not much better, gave it to a friend.

The worst I currently own is a Taurus 94. Accurate enough single action, but has to be the worst double action tirgger I've ever tried.

[copdills]

jennings 22 with standard 22lr

[SF1911]

Jennings .380. I traded a bunch of Led Zeppelin CDs to a friend for it. I got screwed.

The Jennings could not fire more than 2 shots without jamming. I remember the RSO telling me that if he knew that I had brought the Jennings to the range, they would not have allowed me to shoot it. He claimed that they had seen to many of these cheap guns (Jennings, Raven, Bryco...) do more damage to the shooter than the target. I didn't believe him until I found that the slide had started to crack.

[okie]

Calico M-100:hereyago:

[billy396]

The Stainless PPK/S .380 was never right. The hammer would follow the slide forward sometimes. It would fail to lock into battery at times. I had it to a good gunsmith twice, put in a Wolff spring kit. IMHO it was not a good gun and I wouldn't ever waste my time with one again. I also had an AMT backup .380 and it jammed, the mag would fall out, it did'nt break down without driving out a roll pin, in all just a pain, and I would never rely on one.