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Oreo
03-18-2008, 11:46 PM
I shoot 40s&w...

I've been looking over some of my range pickups today & noticed that some cases have more glock bulge then others. Some cases have little dings & other cases are in really rough shape.

How much defect is too much to reload? Seems to me that any case with a hard crimp at the mouth should be discarded, but what about ones that are just out of round? What about little dings on the side of the case? It's hard to find a case without any dings but some are worse then others.

Any help is appreciated! :)

Crazy4nitro
03-19-2008, 12:02 AM
I use them unless the bulge seems to have Brass that Looks like stretch marks running parallel to the case length. I have never ran across range Pickups that were an Issue. Oval and Dented ones will be fine once resized....I only discard ones that Have really Bad Gouges in the bulge area from say being stepped on while on the Concrete.....99% of what I pick-up is reused.

This is what I do,YMMV.
(Your mileage may Vary)

'Nitro

WalterGA
03-19-2008, 07:17 AM
I wouldn't reload .40s on a bet, but that's just I. Lots of people load .40s and only have a KB every-now-and-then.

gokyo
03-19-2008, 08:12 AM
By the mere fact you are even asking how much of a bulge is to much marks you permentantly as a CRB.

Steve Koski
03-19-2008, 08:37 AM
I reload 40, and I don't even bet much.

Dings don't matter.

Bulge doesn't matter, unless it is bad enough that it won't size out.

Mogollon
03-19-2008, 08:58 AM
With an OEM barrel, use your barrel as a guage to test your loaded rounds. Most OEM chambers are rather generous, and will easily accomidate a slightly rotund case. Sizing die will take care of the rest. Case guages are typically cut to SAAMI minimum chamber specs, and will often reject rounds that will easily fit your chamber.
Most fit problems come when you try to put brass fired in an OEM barrel into an aftermarket barrel, or into a firearm built on a 1911-type of platform, such as an STI/SVI.

Rangerat
03-19-2008, 09:30 AM
I wouldn't reload .40s on a bet, but that's just I. Lots of people load .40s and only have a KB every-now-and-then.

I have seen that your comments are respected around here. However, I do not understand your post re KB. There are many of us that reload .40 S&W for our pistols with no problems. I think you just add to the .40 fear that with proper procedures is unjustified. If you were just being humorous then I missed it.:confused:

Steve Koski
03-19-2008, 09:39 AM
Walter is old school, like pre-typwriter age. Scribes and oil lamps type.

HiddenEyes
03-19-2008, 03:31 PM
Walter is old school, like pre-typwriter age. Scribes and oil lamps type.


I hear that his insulting parliament indirectly sparked the revolution.


Mr. HE:cool:

JLarsson
03-19-2008, 04:04 PM
Sometimes parliament needs insulting.

kimberguy2004
03-19-2008, 04:40 PM
If I get .40 brass

kimberguy2004
03-19-2008, 04:48 PM
If I get .40 brass from an uknown source/gun, I run it through my sizing die and chamber check it using the barrel before I even try to reload it. I've gotten some that even after running it through the Dillon sizer and also a Lee FCD, it still wouldn't go in my barrel. It's a brown match barrel and it's not very forgiving. I figure that if it won't drop in after being resized, there's no reason to waste time loading it just to have to pull it apart. I only do that if the case has any bulge at all in it..

Oreo
03-19-2008, 05:33 PM
I'm not worried about a round not chambering. I'm worried about a case failure / KB. Sounds to me like you guys are saying any old mangled case that I can hammer or pry back into shape enough that a FCD will pass over it is safe to load & fire.

Maybe I'm CRB or not... there were a handfull of cases that made it to the recycling bin just 'cause they weren't pretty enough for me to want to find out otherwise.

WalterGA
03-19-2008, 05:59 PM
I have seen that your comments are respected around here. However, I do not understand your post re KB. There are many of us that reload .40 S&W for our pistols with no problems. I think you just add to the .40 fear that with proper procedures is unjustified. If you were just being humorous then I missed it.:confused:

Nope, just don't have any use for the .40. When I began posting on boards like this, there was a site, the name of which I don't remember, but it was back before GT came into existence. One of the members of that early forum was an ordnance engineer who'd spent considerable time with several of the major ammo manufacturers. He thought that the .40 was an ill-conceived and poorly-designed round.

I've done a lot of experimenting with reloading, having experimented with much more "current" designs than the .40 Sheitz und Weazel, eg., .400 Cor-Bon and .40 Super, both of which make the .40 look like a DemocRAT's manhood. In hindsight, wish I'd just gone 10mm, instead of wasting all that time and $$$ on .400 Cor-Bon and .40 Super.

Just based on the paucity of my reloading experience (I've only reloaded a little over 200,000 rounds), I'll certainly defer to the more-experienced. However, it's my humble opinion that the .40, and now the .45GAP offer little latitude for reloading error. Let me really stick my neck out here. I'll also prognosticate that, when and if lots of folks load lots of .357 Sigs, you're going to be hearing of setback-induced KBs, every-now-and-then.

Besides, why would I, a real manly-man, want to piss around with a .40, when I'm a 10mm-kind-of-guy! :wink5: Hey, I'm just expressing my opinion, not trying to influence anybody else, one-way-or-the-other. I prefaced my earlier post by stating that lots of folks load .40s and love 'em. If you load 'em and love 'em, fine, have at it!

Tree Rat
03-19-2008, 06:06 PM
In short....Walt has no capacity for providing you any solution to your problem....but you still have to get the bloviating.:wink5:

Iron them out and load em up just have thousdands are doing as we speak.

TR

yammerschooner
03-19-2008, 06:15 PM
Fill me up a flat rate box of them, I'll pay to have them shipped out here.

I'll even push cast through them.

Momma needs new shoes.

WalterGA
03-20-2008, 07:10 AM
In short....Walt has no capacity for providing you any solution to your problem....but you still have to get the bloviating.:wink5:

Iron them out and load em up just have thousdands are doing as we speak.

TR

The solution is there, amongst the bloviation, but one, of course, must be wise enough to recognize the nature of the solution, amongst the bloviation. And now, for my first Rx of my newfound-forum, take 1 qt. of Walter GA's Solomon Juice, administered via bovine enema, stat!:sifone:

Tree Rat
03-20-2008, 12:29 PM
Ah yes, it's back to the future.:yesnod:

EDITED: To be nice.


TR

Steve Koski
03-20-2008, 01:13 PM
Reloading 40 is only for the very bravest of godless heathens.

Steve Koski
03-20-2008, 01:13 PM
Solomon Juice!

I haven't heard that for years.

Anyone want to get in on a group buy?

Steve Koski
03-20-2008, 01:21 PM
By the way, peter pan ROCKS!

Steve Koski
03-20-2008, 01:22 PM
So do the three billy goats gruff.

yammerschooner
03-20-2008, 01:25 PM
Edit: nevermind.

I'm not funny.

Oreo
03-20-2008, 01:26 PM
<------ Brave godless heathen. :ihih:

Coloradoglocker
03-20-2008, 02:11 PM
I guess that makes me a very brave heathen as I've reloaded and shot slightly over 27,000rds of .40sw for both my stock G22 and G23. Not only have I never had a KB, I've never had a problem with them either. I load the mag, insert it in the pistol, pull the trigger, it goes boom, the target I'm aiming at has a hole in it. Couldn't be simplier.

Oreo
03-20-2008, 03:23 PM
Can't wait till I get my 3-stage powder charge worked up for my .40cal depleted uranium Zom(g!!)bi-killa rounds!! Talk about godless heathen bad ass!!