What is your fav. 9mm bunny fart load.

[speedracer211]

Looking to see what bunny fart loads you guys are using for idpa or uspsa.

[918v]

My favorite right now is 3.3 grains of Bullseye under a 147gr XTP primed by FC-100 and contained in a FC case with a OAL of 1.100"

[MakeMineaP99]

What?! No WST?

[918v]

I had to ditch all my loads and start from scratch with my P210. Since all handloading begins with Bullseye, I went with Bullseye and am pretty happy with it.

I'll most likely try WST next. I remember 3.7 grains gave the best accuracy in my P226.

[SnooseGoose]

For uspsa production I'm currently using 3.4 grains of VV-320 under a 147gr MB bullet (MB is no longer in buisness so will be changing bullets soon), cci 500, win brass, 1.142 overall length. This just makes pf out of the 3.9 inch barrel of my ruger p95 and is a pretty soft shooting load.

SG.

[Lone_Wolfe]

Does anyone do any loads with Accurate powders? I have some #5 I'd like to try out for 9mm. Bunny farts please. :)

[killarbb]

i use either clays or Titegroup......i can make bunny fart loads with either and do it using 115, 124, and 147 grain bullets.....i prefer the 124s and TG, the 147s just feel wierd.

[918v]

Does anyone do any loads with Accurate powders? I have some #5 I'd like to try out for 9mm. Bunny farts please. :)

147gr XTP
1.1" OAL
FC case
CCI-500 primer
4.5 grains of AA#5

Very nice and pleasant load. Superb accuracy, although you'll get a bunch of unburned powder in the gun's innards.

[BigSlick]

Bunny fart load dats a favorite is 124gr cast ahead a 4.6gr WSF, WSP or CCI 500 @1.150

Just enough to reliably cycle da slide, accurate as hell an zero unburned flakes

4.5 a cycle 95% of da time

WSF is lead friendly as hell too

No smoke wit Lar's Red

[MakeMineaP99]

'Slick, you sure about it being 5.6 grs? I got this load from you a while back, and it was 4.6 grs under a 124 gr cast?

Since, then I've done extensive work up from mild to wild with WSF and 4.6 grs will cycle a G17, just rolls out of the gun.

[BigSlick]

Oh chit, typo bigtime.

Thanks for catchin dat P99 ;)

[Brass Nazi]

'Slick, you sure about it being 5.6 grs? I got this load from you a while back, and it was 4.6 grs under a 124 gr cast?

Since, then I've done extensive work up from mild to wild with WSF and 4.6 grs will cycle a G17, just rolls out of the gun.


Everything is bigger in Texas.


Even bunny farts.

[Gary Newport]

Everything is bigger in Texas.


Even bunny farts.

:rofl:

[pdg45acp]

Here's my USPSA Production, USPSA Limited Minor and IDPA SSP 9mm load..

147gr lead (Lyman), 3.8 Unique, WSP, COL1.073, Crimp .377

Ave Vel of 925 @ 80deg out of a Glock 17 with a Lone Wolf Barrel..

[grr]

147gr Berry's plated RN, 3.2gr Titegroup, 1.125 OAL, 900fps out of a G34.

[Pitmaster]

Anyone have one for a Walther P99? My wife has recently shown an interest in shooting. I wouldn't mind having some rounds available when she graduatess from a .22.

[918v]

My new favorite bunnyfart load for the 9mm is a 147gr XTP (1.100"), 3.4 grains of WST, FC-100 primer.

[MONTEGOD7SS]

My new favorite bunnyfart load for the 9mm is a 147gr XTP (1.100"), 3.4 grains of WST, FC-100 primer.

That is an expensive bunny fart load for sure! Are these for the P210?

[918v]

Yup. I sold all my other 9s.

[4eyes]

My new favorite bunnyfart load for the 9mm is a 147gr XTP (1.100"), 3.4 grains of WST, FC-100 primer.

That's a jackrabbit load. Use less powder for eastern cottontails.

:yesnod:

[Jim_M]

I use this for USPSA Production. Love shooting sub-sonic. Makes minor +.

G17
Berry 147 FP
3.3gr TiteGroup
WSP primer
Mixed brass




Jim M

[colorado4wheel]

147 Precision Delta
3.4-3.5 Gr of Solo 1000
1.100 OAL
Mixed Brass

I got this load from a huge thread over at BrianEnos.com. This guy tested a lot of powders. He found the Solo 1000 smoked the least and shot the softest. Never heard of it till then. He was not wrong BTW. For me I like it better then TG as it fills the case much better, is softer to shoot as well. Very good overall setup. Reason I give a range in powder is my stock G34 will not run 3.3 gr but it will run 3.5. 3.3 will make PF. My gun with a clipped spring runs fine with 3.4 gr.

[D. Manley]

147 Precision Delta
3.4-3.5 Gr of Solo 1000
1.100 OAL
Mixed Brass

I got this load from a huge thread over at BrianEnos.com. This guy tested a lot of powders. He found the Solo 1000 smoked the least and shot the softest. Never heard of it till then. He was not wrong BTW. For me I like it better then TG as it fills the case much better, is softer to shoot as well. Very good overall setup. Reason I give a range in powder is my stock G34 will not run 3.3 gr but it will run 3.5. 3.3 will make PF. My gun with a clipped spring runs fine with 3.4 gr.

Love S-1000 in .45 ACP and my wife likes 4.0 grains under a 115 grainer in 9MM...surprisingly accurate and soft.

[colorado4wheel]

Love S-1000 in .45 ACP and my wife likes 4.0 grains under a 115 grainer in 9MM...surprisingly accurate and soft.


I load up similar for my 115. About 4.1 just to make sure the slide cycles ok. Nice powder really. It's my new tightgroup for non-max velocity loads.

[G23]

What burn group is Solo in? Titegroup or WsF?

It good to see ya guys

[D. Manley]

What burn group is Solo in? Titegroup or WsF?

It good to see ya guys

Faster than either...right next to Bullseye...but, is a single-base powder and extremely clean.

[MakeMineaP99]

Think of Solo 1000 as improved Clays, without the tendancy to spike, runs just as fast.

[G23]

Faster than either...right next to Bullseye...but, is a single-base powder and extremely clean.


Faster than Titegroup? is it easy to get in trouble with?

[SpaceGlocker]

3.8 gn of WSF with a 147 gr flat nose lead bullet....accurate and controlable.....

now if someone would just sell me a 356637 lyman die for the bullets............

[D. Manley]

Faster than Titegroup? is it easy to get in trouble with?

S-1000 is quite safe...much moreso IMO, than TG. "MakeMineaP99"'s comment above is a pretty accurate comparison but I'd add, it also has more head-room for a safety margin.

[colorado4wheel]

Faster than Titegroup? is it easy to get in trouble with?


I don't think so. I can load 3.2 gr in a 9mm and it fills the case nicely. I can load up to 4.2 gr with the 115gr bullets. Double charge is very noticeable and it has a pretty high volume so variance in actual weight are not a huge issue. It's a great bunny fart powder. When you only need 3.2 gr (for instance with a 147) to make PF but I have loaded 3.6 gr with 141gr bullets with no signs of pressure (not a recommended load from the decade old data I have). I trust it.

[dougader]

In the Hornady 6th Ed., they list S-1000 slower than TG but not by much... the list goes 700X, Nitro 100, TiteGroup, Am. Select, Solo 1000, VV N-320, Green Dot, International, WW 231....

[nitesite]

Hodgdon's Relative Burn Rate Chart

N310
Titewad
Red Dot
Clays
Hi-Skor 700-X
Bullseye
Titegroup
American Select
Solo 1000
Green Dot
Trailboss
WSH (edited, first had WSF)
International
PB
VV N320
WST
Accurate #2

I was surprised to find Bullseye and Titegroup side-by-side on Hodgdon's chart, and Clays and Red Dot faster than BE. But it's more up-to-date (Trailboss included) than other charts I have access to. Plus they are a powder company and not a bullet maker or a reloading equipment company so what do they know?

Just musing.....

[Gary Newport]

Hodgdon's Relative Burn Rate Chart

N310
Titewad
Red Dot
Clays
Hi-Skor 700-X
Bullseye
Titegroup
American Select
Solo 1000
Green Dot
Trailboss
WSF
International
PB
VV N320
WST
Accurate #2

I was surprised to find Bullseye and Titegroup side-by-side on Hodgdon's chart, and Clays and Red Dot faster than BE. But it's more up-to-date (Trailboss included) than other charts I have access to. Plus they are a powder company and not a bullet maker or a reloading equipment company so what do they know?

Just musing.....

Red Dot faster than Bullseye? :yikes: That's the first time I've heard that! I don't think Alliant agrees. And what's with WST and AA #2 at the bottom of the chart? Something about that chart does not compute!

What does Hodgdon know? Well, they know how to buy and distribute powder. I'm not sure they know much about making it!

[nitesite]

OK... I didn't hand type the whole chart, just the first ten or twenty entries.

I thought it would get some discussion going again, since initially there was a lot of talk going back and forth but the thread was fading away.... ;)

[Gary Newport]

OK... I didn't hand type the whole chart, just the first ten or twenty entries.

I thought it would get some discussion going again, since initially there was a lot of talk going back and forth but the thread was fading away.... ;)

If you typed the entries in order of fast (at top) to slow (at bottom), Hogdon claims that WSF is faster than WST! That's just wrong.

[nitesite]

OOps, it was WSH before WSF.

http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html

[GLShooter]

I'm getting ready to try some Steel Challenge stuff. I had forgotten that I had a pound of S-1250 on the shelf. It should be just the ticket for some 125 RNL out of my little steel gun.

Greg L.

[Steviewonder1]

For you AA folks here is mine. The minimum level to function my G19.
115FMJ
AA2 4.3Grains
OAL 1.115
Federal Primers

[thorn]

Anyone have one for a Walther P99?

4.8gr WSF.
124gr plated RN (Using Berry's right now)
1.150 OAL
CCI primer

You *might* be able to go to 4.7gr, but 4.6 wouldn't cycle my P99's slide 100% of the time. A lower OAL might have helped, but typically i stick in the 1.145-1.155 range as i know it feeds well, and instead adjust powder charges to get what i'm after.

thorn

[atrfod]

We've been using 3.3grs of Titegroup under 147 Berry's.But I see now that the prices of Berry's are up again,so its back to the drawing board.I picked up some 125 and 147 lead heads from a local caster,but I haven't worked up any loads yet.I should at least be able to get them to work in my wife's M&P,not so sure about my G17.If they don't work out,I'll just get in line for some 147 FMJs from Precision Delta.-Mike

[Frostback]

4.7gr HS-6 behind a 147gr cast lead RNFP (ACWW with Lars red). WSP primer. Doing about 810fps out of a stock G-19.

Frosty

[Timberwolf]

I don't play the PF game that a lot of shooters do.:dunno: When I go to a match - IDPA or IPSC - I know that I'll make PF.

I have 2 loads depending on what powder I can get.

147gr CMJ
3.9gr/Unique
CCI primer but WW and Fed are GTG
OAL 1.125"
PF 137

or

147gr CMJ
3.7gr/N320
CCI primer but WW and Fed are GTG
OAL 1.125"
PF 133

Both loads make PF at most temperatures -20C - +38C.

Both loads recoil straight back with no muzzle flip.:14:

[MisterLady27]

Favorite Light load from my basement

4.2 gr WST over CCI under 115gr poly FP OAL 1.092"

Just trickles out of our 17. Sometimes the GGRLS need another 0.2gr if they're tired for reliable function.

ML27

[atrfod]

Just an update on where I'm at now.Its looking like its going to be 3.7grs of Unique under a moly Black Bullets International 147FP,loaded to 1.135".This seems to be a nice smooth load,wife approved.It shoots well out of my G17 and her M&P Pro with no leading.I haven't chronoed them yet,but they feel close enough.If you order a case of 3000 from BBI,they work out to be like $63/1000 shipped.-Mike

[GAP shooter]

If your barrel twist likes the heavyweights better... try 160gr. with 2.7 solo 1000 at 1.135. Shoots like a .22 and very accurate out of 2 of my 9's.

[Opie]

3.0 clays under 124gr mg hp

[Pbairborne]

S-1000 is a fast powder, much closer to Titegroup than to WSF.

[nitesite]

I don't use fast powders in my 9mm loads.

.

[Gary Newport]

My current choice is: Montana Gold 147 CMJ, 3.6 grains of Bullseye, OAL of 1.13. (I prefer subsonic loads in 9mm.) Bullseye does a decent job of filling the tiny 9mm cases with this charge weight and the accuracy is good. In the 9mm, Bullseye is not as "dirty" (sooty) as in .45 loads, perhaps due to the higher pressure.)

If anyone has a good load using 147 jacketed bullets and WST, I'd like to hear about it. (Fred forced me to buy some WST for .45 ACP and I would like to standardize on one powder for the three cartridges I reload: .45 GAP, .45 ACP and 9mm.)