Dillon 1050 owners - Question

[Jerry Snyder]

Hopefully, someone who has a Dillon 1050 has an answer for this problem.

I get a popping noise from the tool head when the brass is inserted into and released from the dies.

I called Dillon, they said the tool head alignment pins/rods need to be tuned with the brass and dies in motion. They said to color the alignment pins with a marker, then, watch for where contact is made.

That being said, the next step in the tuning process is to tap the alignment pins in the direction of the area that does not have marker on them to align them.

I have 4 tool heads and they all do this. Any other method? The reason I said that is I tried this method and I broke off one of the alignment pins. Dillon fixed it at no charge, but I am going crazy with all the popping. It does make the reloading a bit frustrating.

This is a 1 1/2 year old Super 1050 with about 30K on it. I am getting ready to sell it and stay with my 650. No popping!

I also posted this on Brian Enos reloading forum, but I know you guys always have the right answers.......:yesnod:

Help!!!!

Jerry Snyder

[AdamN]

You lost me at popping sound, what do you mean popping??

Popping like a cork, popping like a metallic sound??

I always thought you could tune the ammount of throw for the shellplate to where the holes for the alignment pin is in the right spot.

[ede]

jerry considering all the problems you're having with it i'll give you 100$ plus i'll pay shipping.

is there any problem with anything other than the noise? have you tried one piece of brass to find out which station is making the noise?

[zdogk9]

jerry considering all the problems you're having with it i'll give you 100$ plus i'll pay shipping.



Don't do it, you'll feel guilty for takin' advantage of ede. I'll take it offn your hands and outa your life for $25 (i take discrete Pay Pal) and I'll catch the shipping.
Z

[Jerry Snyder]

jerry considering all the problems you're having with it i'll give you 100$ plus i'll pay shipping.

Shipping would be $1400.......

[yammerschooner]

Well heck, I would be more than happy to come pick it up.

I look forward to reading the solution to this one. I am sorry that I am unable to assist.

[Bush Pilot]

If you had a Load Master you wouldn't be having to ask questions on how to fix it.

[DssG19]

What kinda dies you runnin?

[Mogollon]

Since I didn't speak with you on the phone, a few questions;
With no brass on the machine, does it make the same noise?
If not, run one case thru all the stations, at which stations does it make the noise?
Are you using Dillon Dies?
Did you tighten the die lock rings with cases in the dies? (this centers the dies in the threads)
If the noise occurs without brass in the machine, deactivate the priming system by removing the ratchet bolt. Does the sound persist?

[bhawkeye]

I just knew Mogollon would jump in. If anyone can help - he's your guy!

I'd be happy to help, but I (like Adam) have no idea what you are describing, since I've never experienced it.

Good luck on finding a resolution.

p.s. - I wouldn't get rid of my 1050 for anything. I like 650's & I like LnL AP's better - but NOTHING compares to a 1050 (when it's running right - sorry JS).

[ede]

Shipping would be $1400.......


i'll send you a prepaid sipping box to put it in, along with some packing foam. i think we can work out the details.

[Jerry Snyder]

I will spend some time on it this week. When I talked to the Dillon shop, they wanted me to have brass in all stations.

No, it does not have the same friction/popping noise when no brass is in the machine.

One piece of brass it does stick in the powder die station, but no other station.

38 super Dies = EGW U die
Redding Comp seating die
Lee FCD

I set the dies in, lowered the tool head, then tightened the dies.

I did change out the powder funnel from a number F older style with the radiusednecked down area to the continuously angled F funnel. This helped some.

I am still stumped.

Thanks

Jerry

Since I didn't speak with you on the phone, a few questions;
With no brass on the machine, does it make the same noise?
If not, run one case thru all the stations, at which stations does it make the noise?
Are you using Dillon Dies?
Did you tighten the die lock rings with cases in the dies? (this centers the dies in the threads)
If the noise occurs without brass in the machine, deactivate the priming system by removing the ratchet bolt. Does the sound persist?

[AdamN]

Well I would start trying to eliminate things. Remove the tool head, see if the noise goes away, shell plate, primer assembly, swager, etc etc.

I cant imagine it would be one of the roller bearings in the linkage?? Everything greased up??

[VN350X10]

Jerry,
Since it happens with ALL of your toolheads, it might be in your case inserter.
Mine makes a loud "TIC" when it gets dry.
Try this....put a drop of 40wt oil on the cam that runs the roller that applies force to the case inserter itself. Also put a drop on the roller.
I know that this is a roller, but mine makes noise when it's dry.....but not if I run the machine thru it's cycle empty. It only seems to make the noise when the shellplate is loaded & there is stress on the system.
Doesn't make sense to me, so I lube it about every 500 rds.& llive with it.
Every 1050 I've ever seen seems to have it's own personality....
My other, older one that I foolishly got rid of for this newer one was almost silent at all times. This one insists on "talking" to me while loading. So I live with it !

good luck !

uncle albert

[Mogollon]

Are you loading either new or once-fired brass? If yes, it is very common for the case to stick on the powder funnel. Once the cases have been fired a couple of times, they acquire a carbon coating to the interior, plus the rough surface created during the impact extrusion process gets smoothed out from the high pressure of firing.
On the 1050 you should use a tapered cone funnel, that solely activates the powder measure and flares the case mouth. The swage backup die located above the primer pocket swager is what expands the case mouth to a uniform inside diameter after sizing.

[yammerschooner]

Jerry, have you figured this out yet? I have a persistent squeak I have to figure out on mine once I get home and have time.

[Jerry Snyder]

Yeah, I got it fixed. Mostly the powder funnel. I was using one from my 650. It needs the one that that comes with the 1050 conversion kits.

JS

[Mogollon]

Jerry,do you have one of the tapered conical expander funnels for your 1050? If not, let me know and PM me your address.

[VN350X10]

Interesting technical point Mogollon.....we WILL keep that one filed for future reference. I'm building up a setup for my .44 Automag & it's not the easiest to find things for it. As I don't have a swaging rod for that station, I disconnect the pocket swager at this time to run it & am expanding with a 650 funnel for .44 mag.
Still need to get a carbide sizer for .44 AutoMag, but since i'm using commercial (Starline) brass, the pocket swager isn't critical . Any suggestions for tooling are appreciated !

uncle albert

[Jerry Snyder]

Jerry,do you have one of the tapered conical expander funnels for your 1050? If not, let me know and PM me your address.


Yes, I have one. I learned the hard way that the tapered conical one is the correct one to use on a 1050.

Thanks

JS

[Mogollon]

Uncle Albert,
Use the 44 Mag swage backup die for loading the 44 Automag. That should be an easy cartridge on the 1050, as it uses the 45acp shellplate, locator pins, case feed plunger.

[VN350X10]

Next time I call in an order, I'll get one. The real biggie is finding the carbide size die WITHOUT paying an arm, a leg & firstborn male offspring !
RCBS listed one way back when, but they're about impossible to find. I can have Lee make me one, again a good chunk of change. Unless I could find a few others that needed one.... I think if you buy 6 (or more) of a custom carbide die, they don't charge for the tooling setup, that saves $100.00 or so.

uncle