Shot my last box of factory ammo today.

[Oreo]

Many of you have helped me with my reloading questions while I've been buying my equipment & components but I have not yet reloaded a singe round. That is about to change however. I have gone through half my stash of WWB & plan to store the rest long-term. So I'll need to work up my first batch before going to the range again. Hopefully I'll get a chance this week.

It will be nice to be off the factory tit. It's a COLD tit after all.:ack2:

[BigSlick]

After you run da first can or two, you a stop an reflect.

Do a lil bit a simple math in ya head, an wear out a set a kneecaps tryin ta kick yaself in da ass for wastin all dat money on crap ammo before ya started reloadin.

Do some more math, wear out a whole nuther set a kneecaps after ya see how much components you coulda bought over da years wit all dat money ya flushed away.

Not to mention all a da brass ya jus left layin, plus other people brass ya jus left layin too

Love,

'Slick

[slowride]

You must vow never to buy factory ammo again.

[webyourbusiness]

bah! you'll find someone who has a gun you want to shoot and don't trust reloads though - like machine gun day at the range - we had to purchase their factory ammo at whatever price they set.... no buy - no shoot.... :mad:

[MakeMineaP99]

A true CRB would have bought a box from the range, garbage picked some factory ammo boxes, and stuffed them with reloads.

[zdogk9]

Look what happened to me when I let 3 rounds of factory ammo slither into my range bag!

[psyop]

A true CRB would have bought a box from the range, garbage picked some factory ammo boxes, and stuffed them with reloads.

Isn't that S.O.P.

[speedracer211]

I did not even bother to shoot my last case of factory ammo. I sold it to a local friend with plenty of NFA guns who lets me blast away with them fo freeeee.

[Oreo]

Well... considering I've only owned a firearm for maybe 2 months... I haven't wasted much money on factory ammo & I haven't missed that much range brass. I bought my gun & realized right from the get-go that if I wanted to shoot much I needed to work something out. Thanks you you guys I did!

You guys got to me in the nick of time! :cheers2:

[thorn]

You still buying factory POWDER?

;)

thorn

[DssG19]

What kills me is thinking about all the damm brass I've left on the range for 15+ years of shooting factory. I need a moment of silence for all the brass left behind. :(................carry on.

[MakeMineaP99]

Well... considering I've only owned a firearm for maybe 2 months... I haven't wasted much money on factory ammo & I haven't missed that much range brass. I bought my gun & realized right from the get-go that if I wanted to shoot much I needed to work something out. Thanks you you guys I did!

You guys got to me in the nick of time! :cheers2:

You've only owned a firearm for two months? Welcome to the gun culture, I can't remember the last time I didn't sleep with at least one firearm within arms reach. Have you already made the transition from gun owner to being part of the gun culture?

Good for you, every gun owner should be a reloader, you get so much more out of your firearms.

[TowsonTiger22]

Where you shootin at Oreo?

[Oreo]

I don't know that I'll ever be part of the "gun culture" per se. I think a better way to put it is that my political understanding is maturing. I don't ever see myself being a republican, and certainly not a single issue voter. But I see myself less & less a democrat these days also. 3rd party isn't even a real option, so... I don't know. I'm not worried about zombies, & realistically, I'll probably never have to use a gun in self defense. Truth be told, there's probably money much better spent for security on other things then a weapon. But I like to shoot & want to be profficient with my gun. That's something that's been with me for many years. I've always been a FIRM believer in the 2nd ammendment. Gun culture? Dunno. Do I qualify?

I shoot at Continental up in Timonium / Cockysville right now. But they've been hassling me about picking up brass so I might start looking for another spot eventually. I know there's one in Bel Air not too far from where I work. That would be more convenient anyway.

[MakeMineaP99]

Print that paragraph out and put it above your reloading bench. In 12-24 months time, you'll be part of the gun culture and won't believe you wrote that.

<---Grew up in NYS.

[Oreo]

What makes you say that? Please explain. How do you think my views will change?

[DssG19]

It's a sickness, we all have it. :puke:

[Steve Koski]

I'm a republicrat too.

I'm also a gun nut.

Proud of it.

They can have my gun when they pry...

[Oreo]

Yea, quite seriously, if they tried to take mine I'd report it stolen & hide it well. If it ever gets to THAT though... things will be REALLY bad for a whole lot of reasons.

[TowsonTiger22]

Go with Horst Mccann (the one in Bel Air) I got my Glock there, and they could care less bout me picking up my brass. Only thing is, you have to shoot TMJ bullets, so no WWB.

[Oreo]

If I'm reloading my own, how the heck are they going to know?

[TowsonTiger22]

I don't know, but I wouldn't want them finding out I wasn't. I rather play nice, and hope it leads to decent pricing on further guns.

[MakeMineaP99]

Oreo,

Feel like doing some reading? Pick up a copy Unintended Consequences by John Ross, it explains quite clearly about the gun culture. My copy is out on loan or I'd send it to you. It's $20 or $30, but if you don't get something out of that book, I'll tear my hair out. Buy it yesterday.

You likely don't feel the need to carry, I never did until I became part of the gun culture (gun culture is more than carrying). IN issues at 18, I had my license to carry at 18, just to have it. Never gave serious thought to carrying until I was mugged, now if I have pants on, I have a firearm on me.

I met a new shooter at the range not all that long ago, he just bought his first pistol and got his LTC. He said he could under why there were certain gun free zones, that even a licensed person shouldn't be able to carry into. I told him in 12 months he'd change his mind.

I can't tell you how you'll become part of the gun culture, it's something that can't been seen. For me, I grew up as a strong fiscal and social conservative, in upstate NY. As I examined why the left was wrong and why conservatism is a way of live, I found firearms were a vital part of my beliefs, that it took me a bit to reconize.

Cetain things that might make me part of the gun culture:

I've read extensively into the history of the GCA and NFA, know most of the Federal laws and cites without looking them up. For example 18 USC § 922(o) bans the registeration of new machine guns, the Brady law is 18 USC § 922(t), 18 USC § 922(r) prevents a person from assembling a firearm with any more than 10 of the named parts.

I refuse to go into IL, even though I live in IN. Can't carry I don't go.

Spend as little time as possible outside the country. If I can't sleep with a gun next to me, I'm not happy.

I spend a lot of time in MI which has a lot more no carry zones than IN. I won't go to any of the no carry zones in MI (sporting events, movies, etc.) In IN we are only prohibited from carrying in schools and school functions, riverboat casinos, and shipping ports, none of which I conduct business at.

I avoid situations that could lead to trouble. Don't go to bars, I am ALWAYS situationally aware. When's the last time you were out to eat and thought about using the stem of your wine glass as a makeshift weapon, if needed?

Don't drink regularly, smoke, go to bars, eat out, don't really shoot competitively. When you read Unintended Consequences you'll see these traits parallel with Henry Bowman.

[Oreo]

I'll find that book & give it a perusal.

It just seems to me that on so many issues these days there are very loud. closed minded voices at oposite extremes & very little real sensible discussion in the middle where the truth is.

[MakeMineaP99]

You don't peruse Unintended Consquences, it will be the fastest book you've ever read. You will lose sleep so you can read it.

While a novel, the factual basis is there and the inside viewpoint is given.

For example, I'm assuming you're familar with the NFA. Why was the NFA passed? If you said because G men were getting shot by gangsters with automatic weapons or as a revenue raising act, you'd be correct by conventional measures, but as John Ross points out, the Act of June 26, 1934, better known as the NFA, was passed to keep Treasurey agents employeed after the end of prohibition in 1933.

Here's one to think about, what was the real story behind the Hughes amendment? I won't give you the answer to that one, but you'll find it in the book.

<---Loves to read and loves Ameican history.

[zdogk9]

I'm not worried about zombies,

And with an attitude like that next thing you know there'll be a flock of the smelly bastards eatin' on your brains

[Oreo]

No, it's just a simple fact of life. I'm all for being prepared for anything... but I live a very low-risk lifestyle, & I can't CCW anyway. The one place I really wish I could be armed - work - won't let me bring a weapon (not that it's legal anyway.)

For instance, I live in a very close knit town-home community with nosey neighbors. Any new car in the neighborhood usually gets reported to the police. It's not a rich neighborhood but it is middle class enough that there aren't too many scumbags living among us. It's not the kind of place high on a burglar's list. The best money I could spend on security would be a monitored system with a sign posted front & back. Let the theif pick one of my neighbors as an easier target.

I'd put good money down that as long as I live where I do now, I'll never have to use my gun in self defense.

[slowride]

+1
I agree with P99. Being a "gun nut" is more than the passion for shooting; it's a lifestyle of protecting your loved ones, yourself, and your God given right to defend what's important.

Oreo, happy shooting, be safe, and enjoy reloading. Nobody's trying to change your beliefs. I used to not watch the news, and I had the arrogant belief that the 2nd amendment was bullet proof. The fact is that it isn't, and those who are trying to protect it are the only ones making any since these days.

[creophus]

No, it's just a simple fact of life. I'm all for being prepared for anything... but I live a very low-risk lifestyle, & I can't CCW anyway. The one place I really wish I could be armed - work - won't let me bring a weapon (not that it's legal anyway.)

For instance, I live in a very close knit town-home community with nosey neighbors. Any new car in the neighborhood usually gets reported to the police. It's not a rich neighborhood but it is middle class enough that there aren't too many scumbags living among us. It's not the kind of place high on a burglar's list. The best money I could spend on security would be a monitored system with a sign posted front & back. Let the theif pick one of my neighbors as an easier target.

I'd put good money down that as long as I live where I do now, I'll never have to use my gun in self defense.Actually that is the kind of place high on a burglar's list. Ever wat the show, "It takes a thief"?

I'm not as concerned about getting robbed as I am getting hurt or someone in my family getting hurt. Take the TV and gadgets, just don't try it while I or my family is at home. I do have a security system to deter that though.

I pray all the time that I never have to use my gun for anything other than fun and hunting. Chances are you'll never have to use it either.

The thing about the 2nd Amendment is that you have to question anyone that has a problem with law abiding citizens being armed. Why should they care? Laws are already in place to punish criminals, so why punish non-criminals too? In regards to republican vs democrat vs independent...right now I'm disappointed with all of them. I'll have to say a prayer and make an informed decision as best I can come election day.

[LexDiamonds]

I just have to give a big +1 to Unintended Consequences. Its a damn fine read. A bit "out there" in some parts, but highly entertaining. Any books by Boston T. Party also recieve high marks from me.

[DssG19]

I'm not worried about zombies,

And with an attitude like that next thing you know there'll be a flock of the smelly bastards eatin' on your brains


+1 Everyone should have a sound zombie exit plan.

[colorado4wheel]

I like shooting factory ammo. Keeps me real and grounded when it comes to my SHTF ammo. 99% of what I shoot is reloaded. But gotta support the industry a little when it comes to the good self defense stuff.

[Oreo]

Yea, the one exception I must admit is that I also just bought 4 boxes of the Winchester Ranger Bonded bullets for SD / HD. But those will get tested for function & then sit hopefully for the rest of eternity in my easy-access gun safe next to the night stand.

I don't mind so much having someone try to change my mind about things. I truly enjoy a thought provoking conversation with intelligent people. Because of you guys my eyes have been opened to a lot of things not directly related to guns. That's a good thing. For example, before I got my gun I probably would have voted for Obama. Now I know better- but it isn't 'cause he's against guns. It's because he can't make a rational argument of his own against guns. He's following blindly an extremist point of view. That shows poor judgment in my book. I wouldn't have seen that if it weren't for you guys.

[Warhorse]

Shot my last box of factory ammo today.

Congratulations!