Primer and powder for .45 ACP

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

Was thinking about using either Unique or AA#5 as a first powder....with WIN 230 gr fmj's.....What about using magnum primers vs reg primers.?

[Gary Newport]

Why would you want to use magnum primers with .45 ACP and Unique or AA #5?

[WalterGA]

I use regular old LP primers and AA#5 for .45ACP reloading.

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

Why would you want to use magnum primers with .45 ACP and Unique or AA #5?
I'm just asking, not saying I'm gonna do it...... Had a friend of mine suggest mag primers,said it gives it a snappier ignition...looking for opinions,thats all.

[DssG19]

I'm just asking, not saying I'm gonna do it...... Had a friend of mine suggest mag primers,said it gives it a snappier ignition...looking for opinions,thats all.

I was kinda wondering what a small rifle primer would do in 9mm, .38 spcl, .40.

[Gary Newport]

Not being a memeber of the Clark School of Reloading, I generally use published, pressure-tested load data. I don't recall seeing any data for .45 ACP which used a magnum pistol primer so I don't bother wondering what would happen if I used them. :skep:

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

Alright so now that we agree on using mag LP primers in a .45acp is a bad idea , how about Unique vs. AA#5? Which do ya'll like?

[BigSlick]

I use regular old LP primers and AA#5 for .45ACP reloading.

+1

Can't beat it - period.

I use straight Clays for light loads, but #5 for everything else.

Wide load range, very forgiving, easy to find, cheap compared to some other powders, and it was developed for use in the 45 ACP.

[Gary Newport]

Alright so now that we agree on using mag LP primers in a .45acp is a bad idea , how about Unique vs. AA#5? Which do ya'll like?

I've used a lot of Unique in .45 ACP in the past; it is a classic powder for that round. However, I never liked the variation in charges it gave me. Flake powders can be flakey that way! :wink5:

WalterGA has lots of experience with AA #5 in this caliber and, as he stated above, likes it.

Currently, I'm loading Mellow Major .45 ACP loads with 230 grain Rainier round-nose bullets and 4.8 grains of Bullseye for IDPA and USPSA. I use Federal LP primers and shoot this out of a G21SF and a G30.

Using exactly the same charge and without resetting any dies, I load 200 grain Rainier round-nose bullets for a Minor power factor (I'm lazy).

[WalterGA]

I'm DEFINITELY not a member of the Clark school of "reloading"!! However, I do use small rifle primers for 9mm reloading, as well as AA#5.

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

Learn me on the Clark school of reloading.................
Which primers you like the best ?
WIN?
CCI?
Any others?

[WalterGA]

If I were a member of the aforementioned "school", I wouldn't be able to render a cogent opinion! :supergrin:

[Gary Newport]

If I were a member of the aforementioned "school", I wouldn't be able to render a cogent opinion! :supergrin:

Walter, I presume that you've noticed that Clark is a GlockPost member. :yikes:

It's going to be just like the old days! :biggrinjester:

[918v]

I recommend 4.9 grains of Bullseye and a FC-150 primer to start.

AA#5 leaves those nasty little unburned powder kernels all over the gun's innards.

Unique is good, but you should start with the bullseye load. That is the original load for the 45 ACP. The first 45 ACP which rolled off the assembly line was loaded with 4.9 grains of Bullseye. If you elect not to begin load development with Bullseye, I will make a little doll resembling you and start poking it with my special .22-250 dummy round.

[fredj338]

I like the way AA#5 meters but I get better accuracy w/ Unique. Mag primers, sure, it can be done but certainly not needed. I would shy away from mag primers in high pressure loads & mag primers may not give you the best accuracy but if you have them, use them. I would drop my powder charge 0.1gr to compensate.

[jwp]

i like bullseye for most all pistol cases and mild to heavy loads except for 10mm and 44mag

[Gary Newport]

I recommend 4.9 grains of Bullseye and a FC-150 primer to start.

AA#5 leaves those nasty little unburned powder kernels all over the gun's innards.

Unique is good, but you should start with the bullseye load. That is the original load for the 45 ACP. The first 45 ACP which rolled off the assembly line was loaded with 4.9 grains of Bullseye. If you elect not to begin load development with Bullseye, I will make a little doll resembling you and start poking it with my special .22-250 dummy round.

:rofl:

I find it reassuring that this venerable old powder still has a few fans! Maybe we could start a Bullseye fan club; we could call it the Black Hand Society! ;)

[cohutt]

I prefer faster powders (bullseye, titegroup pr wst) for jacketed 230s and unique for lighter lead bullets (200g lswc).

[Jammer Six]

I'm a Titegroup-Federal 150 guy.

Titegroup because it makes nice light loads, Federal because I've had trouble with other primers going off, and Federal has never failed to go off.

[cohutt]

I'm a Titegroup-Federal 150 guy.

Titegroup because it makes nice light loads, Federal because I've had trouble with other primers going off, and Federal has never failed to go off.
cci and win have always worked well with me, as long as they aren't upside down :mad:

[Gary Newport]

cci and win have always worked well with me, as long as they aren't upside down :mad:

WLP primers gave me a few too many ( a few IS too many) "light strikes" in my old G21s. The same thing started happening in my G21SF #1. I switched to Federal primers. :thumbsup:

(However, I did have a problem with a couple of Federal primers when they somehow got into the case upside-down. I think Federal needs to tighten its QC! :biggrinjester:)

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

I have heard that WIN were harder primers, Which is better Fed or CCI?

[Gary Newport]

I have heard that WIN were harder primers, Which is better Fed or CCI?

They're all good...if they work in your gun! Federal became the primer-of-choice back in the day for double-action revolver shooters. Folks who lightened the springs on their double-action revolvers found that Federals would pop more consistently than other brands under those conditions.

Lee warns against using Federal primers in their (crude) auto-prime system -- probably because they are more sensitive than other brands.

Federal primers are darned hard to get these days -- a lot of production capacity is probably dedicated to the military. If you can get them (I had to pay a premium for Federal MATCH LP primers on my last order or do without), I would recommend them for Glock or revolver applications.

On the other hand, I haven't had any problems with Winchester Small Pistol primers in my .45 GAP reloads, but one of my shooting buddies HAS had problems with WSP primers in his 9mm loads for his G17. He uses Federals now.