What do I need to do ?? Please help

[BIGGUNGOBOOM]

OK so lets say that I picked up a IMI Uzi in 9mm. and it came with two standard barrels and one SBR barrel " not SBR'd yet" and I want to make this Uzi an SBR gun. so I already have the receiver and the Barrel "not at my home with the gun, stored somewhere else" what do I have to do and what forms do I need to fill out to make this gun a SBR'd Uzi
I am kinda at a loss here and could use some help.

thanks fellas

BOOM

:patriot::28:

[creophus]

Fill out a Form 1 and send it to the ATF along with the $$$ ($200 I think), then wait for them to get back to you.

[MakeMineaP99]

Form 1, FD 258 fingerprint cards, passport photo, in duplicate. $200 making tax due.

If you file under a business entity, no prints or mugs.

[creophus]

BGGB, I highly recomend forming a recovable trust, if that will work for you and your particular state.

[MakeMineaP99]

I'd be careful with the trusts. There's still a lot of debate in the NFA community how "solid" trusts are for the purposes of acquiring NFA firearms. Do a search on subguns with the word "trust" and you'll see what I mean.

If you want to go the business entity route, draw up an LLC and register it with the state, mine cost $90 to register. None of the restrictions with a corp, you can draw up the operating agreement as you see fit. You can also hire an attorney, which should run you $300-$500.

[creophus]

I'd be careful with the trusts. There's still a lot of debate in the NFA community how "solid" trusts are for the purposes of acquiring NFA firearms. Do a search on subguns with the word "trust" and you'll see what I mean.

If you want to go the business entity route, draw up an LLC and register it with the state, mine cost $90 to register. None of the restrictions with a corp, you can draw up the operating agreement as you see fit. You can also hire an attorney, which should run you $300-$500.
I read about alot of people using stuff like willmaker to draw up their trust and not doing it right.

There may be some other issues as well. Some states make the trust route even more difficult. It was best suited for my needs. I didn't want to have to register a corp every year to keep it active.

There's pros and cons for each option.

[MakeMineaP99]

That's the glory of an LLC. You can elect taxation to the same as a corp or pass through and in most states, you only have to file a report with the state annually or biannually (IN is bi). No annual shareholders meeting.

Unless your Articles of Organization specify otherwise, the LLC is perpetual.

Also, Shane, you'll need the sheriff or police chief to sign off on the form. If he won't sign, then you'll need to find a DA or other suitable canidate. If all else fails, you'll have to draw up an LLC or corp.

[MONTEGOD7SS]

There ain't a chance in hell he's gonna go through all that. Just pay the $200 and get er done the ole fashion way. Sheriff and CoP here don't really care what ya got, so that shouldn't be a problem. It is true that until all forms are done and sent back that he can't even have the barrel in his house with the Uzi, correct?

FWIW, I still vote M11/9. :)

[MakeMineaP99]

Yes, ATF considers that "constructive possession." Whether it holds up in court is a different matter, however walking into court ain't cheap.

[MONTEGOD7SS]

I don't have an Uzi, so he has plenty of options of where to stash it.

[BIGGUNGOBOOM]

:yesnod: :coolgleamA: :wink5:

[cohutt]

Once it passes the gun has to be permanently labeled as SBR. Guess what, you will be the enshrined for eternity on the receiver for all future owners- your name address etc will have to be engraved on the receiver as the one who created it.

I decided that only 9" of a 16" barrel sticking out of my IMI would be OK after all and passed the on the whole SBR.

If I want to play "Raid on Entebbe" and look Israeli commando tacticool I have the dummy short barrel I can screw in for show.

[MakeMineaP99]

He can also have the barrel engraved with his name, city and state. Since's he's the maker of the NFA firearm, he has to either engrave the barrel or the receiver.

[creophus]

FWIW, I still vote M11/9. :)
I second that vote. So that's at least 2 to 1. BGGB, you have to buy the M11/9 now.

[BIGGUNGOBOOM]

one thing at a time fellas. there is also a M11/9 available. but cant afford that right now. and honestly the Uzi looks more sexy if you will to me than the M11/9. I am still throwing around the idea whether or not to SBR it. I don't plan on letting go of the gun, and it will end up being the boys one day anyway. its just whether or not I want to register it. I will have to see how it looks and shoots once I get it home. If I could find one of the fake suppressors for it then I may just say screw it and leave it as is. but honestly the reason that I want to SBR it is cause I dont think that long skinny barrel stiking out looks that COOL, thats all.

[creophus]

That's a lot of money and hassel for making it look cool BGGB. Why not just leave it the way it is? It has a collapsable or folding stock on it right? That should take care of the size issue.

Cool thing about a machine gun is that barrel length doesn't matter.

[BIGGUNGOBOOM]

yea, Freewilly told me to leave it stock and just shoot the darn thing. I might just do that and buy a barrel shroud to thicken up the barrel area. and have fun with it. I was also looking at one of the E&L hard plastic brass catchers. but I never have talked to anyone that has used them, so I wonder how they work ??

I am going to ask him the Price on the M11/9 but if memory serves me its only semi. any ways the way I figure it, I need to start getting a crap load of 9mm brass. but I imagine that this will be another hoot of a gun to own and shoot.

[GLOCKENNBOOMER]

If you go to the CLEO and he refuses to sign can you still bypass him and do the trust or LLC?

[creophus]

:gun_bandana:If you go to the CLEO and he refuses to sign can you still bypass him and do the trust or LLC?
You can in Florida and many other states. That's an advantage to the Trust or Corp route.

[BIGGUNGOBOOM]

I think that I am going to leave it the way it is for a while, till I decide for 100% that I want to change it. we'll see this next weekend