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Jake
03-28-2008, 02:18 PM
I received the barrels for my G21 and G26 today.

Cycled a couple mags thru the G21...perfect.

G26...first round goes thru ok, them major jam up...MAJOR!

I cannot rack the slide for anything. Round in the chamber...:yesnod:.

I'm awaiting a call back from LWD's Armorer.

Anyone want to chime in while I wait?
:banghead:

Steve Koski
03-28-2008, 02:31 PM
1) Pull the trigger.
2) Put the front corner/edge of the side against something solid, ala 2x4. Slap grip frame with hand.

Good ole ultra tight LWD chambers...

Bullet type?

Jake
03-28-2008, 02:36 PM
Bullet type?115 gr. fmj

I haven't started on my lead rounds. But now that my barrels are here....:thumbsup:

You think I'm going to have to adjust my rounds to fit this tight Lil Bastage.

My lead rounds are 125 gr conical.

DssG19
03-28-2008, 03:09 PM
1) Pull the trigger.

Don't do that in the house.

soundwave
03-28-2008, 03:17 PM
That sucks. Lead being tight is one thing, but FMJ's are another.

I would check the crimp and possibly take the OAL down if they are getting stuck in the freebore (same problem I had with some lead rounds).

LW will bore it out for you free of charge. I checked in on that when I had a problem.

Hope it works out.

slowride
03-28-2008, 03:18 PM
I been thinking about a LWD barrel for my G22, and some of Freak's bullets!

webyourbusiness
03-28-2008, 03:39 PM
what OAL you use for those rounds? I have had a couple major lockups with Berry's plateds on a regular G17 stock barrel - when we got them out, the bullets seem to be out of round - the case is bulged but only noticable if you put it next to a good round. I have taken to using my glock barrel as a case guage - I watch TV while dropping rounds from one box into the barrel and then into another box production style like... it's boring work, but at least I know the rounds will chamber and fire at the range!

WalterGA
03-28-2008, 03:52 PM
Koski's right, except for the "pull the trigger" part. You don't need to pull the trigger; just do the drill that he recommended.

Jake
03-28-2008, 03:55 PM
LWD's armorer and I had a great conversation.

The guy is super nice!

He explained a technique to me to clear the jam.

Gripping the slide with my left hand (I'm a righty, YMMV), hold the gun close to my stomach.
With the web of my right hand, where you'd grip the pistol, give a downward whack!

Didn't take much effort to pop the round right out.


FWIW...he said if I was in an area that was safe to fire the gun, No problemo!

The armorer explained that the (cases) reloads that I tested the barrel with were sized to the original Glock barrel.
LW's barrels are tighter and chamber is supported.

Glocks....I bought the barrels to shoot lead with.
I fought with myself about buying these...I lost.

Should be smoother roads ahead now. I'll just size the loads to the barrel before heading to the range.
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WalterGA
03-28-2008, 05:15 PM
I'll just size the loads to the barrel before heading to the range.

How ya planning on doing that, Jake? :) Suggestion: If you're not using a Lee Factory Crimp die for crimping/post-sizing, this would probably be a good time to give it a try.

colorado4wheel
03-28-2008, 05:20 PM
Or just lower the crimping die all the way down. I just took out my FCD and replaced it with a Dillon Crimp Die. I only got 30rds done before I ran out of powder but those 30 were perfect in my LW barrel. I also think the Lee Sizing die may go farther down the case then some others.

Jake
03-28-2008, 05:46 PM
I'll just size the loads to the barrel before heading to the range. How ya planning on doing that, Jake?
I just need to check which of my all ready made rounds drop in the barrel.

Those ones will be fine.

The ones that are snug...may need some coaxing. :toetap05:

Frost
03-28-2008, 10:15 PM
Be sure and post how those barrels work out with lead.
I will be really curious about the amount of lead that builds up.

cohutt
03-29-2008, 04:34 AM
Be sure and post how those barrels work out with lead.
I will be really curious about the amount of lead that builds up.

my extended/threaded g17 LW barrel is extremely lead tolerant. that was one reason i bought it, the other being to aquire a 9mm can in the future.

not lead proof though, i had a batch of 125s that wasn't loaded hot enough that leaded it and my uzi barrel pretty badly. the other lead combos i;ve used left it squeaky clean though

Frost
03-29-2008, 07:50 AM
Cohutt

I seem to be the only one complaining about lead build up in a Lone Wolf barrel. That is pointing more and more to a bad barrel.

I am currently shooting jacketed through it as part of a breakin process.
Another trip or two to the range and I am going to deep clean it and try lead again.
This time around I am going to try WSF instead of 231 and see if that makes a difference.

WalterGA
03-29-2008, 07:53 AM
Factory Crimp Dies are "lowered all the way down," when properly installed, anyhow. Dillon dies don't size as far down the case as do Lee dies.

I'm having some feeding trouble with a LWD G20 barrel, but I'm pretty sure that the problems are crimp-related. All the loaded rounds drop easily into the barrel, but, after a few sooty rounds, begin to "catch" on the upper part of the chamber. I'm relieved that part of the chamber a little and done some judicious polishing.

Probably just need to do a better job of crimping.

918v
03-29-2008, 10:27 AM
9mm dies almost never restore the case to original specs. I had to modify my shell holder to allow the case further into the die to size the case completely. In some cases, the die sizes the brass tighter than original and they actually grow in length by .002".

A good option is to get a Lee "U" die. This will eliminate chambering issues caused by the case body. Proper crimp adjustment will eliminate chambering issues caused by the case neck. (I know that this round does not have a "neck", but understand that I am referring to the area of the case holding the bullet)

cohutt
03-29-2008, 11:07 AM
Cohutt

I seem to be the only one complaining about lead build up in a Lone Wolf barrel. That is pointing more and more to a bad barrel.

I am currently shooting jacketed through it as part of a breakin process.
Another trip or two to the range and I am going to deep clean it and try lead again.
This time around I am going to try WSF instead of 231 and see if that makes a difference.

Remember that I had a bad combo along the way that leaded the shiite out of the barrel; any barrel ( and brand, any caliber) will lead with the wrong combo of bullets, lube & velocity. Before you give up, post some more info:

what lead bullets are you shooting?
What alloy / brand/ hardness? have you mic'd them?
WHat powder
What charge
exactly where is the leading in the barrel?

918v
03-29-2008, 11:18 AM
To minimize/eliminate leading, use a soft alloy, a fast powder, keep the velocity under 1000 FPS, and the pressure under 25000 PSI.

chewy
03-29-2008, 11:27 AM
I had a similar experience with my 9mm LWD barrel for my g-35. As 918v siad, most 9mm resizers dies don't resize the brass all the way to the base of the cartridge. So's I just unscrewed the crimp outta my Lee FCD and take the extra step resizing it agian after using my RCBS sizer. Man, even with 130 grain cast loads, they just slip in like a smooth 1st date. I don't crimp em' with Lee FCD. If you reload in stages, which I do, then it ain't that big of a deal. I don't how it'd work with a progressive.

Crazy4nitro
03-29-2008, 12:54 PM
I had the same issue in my G-23 when shooting Lead. I had to load my lead bullets to 1.080" !!!
LWD re-machined the Leade of the barrel. It now runs Flawlessly. Yes a lil pain in the Butt ,well worth my time.

'Nitro

Frost
03-29-2008, 07:08 PM
3 different brands of cast boolits, one of them was Freaks TC 45 acp.
Powder was 231, ran the gamut from very mild to almost wild.
Completely cleaned all lead out between trys.
Primers were Federal.

I am currently running 500 jacketed through it then I will deep clean it and try again.

231 should be fast enough to obturate the base of the bullet enough to seal the bore properly, I mean crap there are only a couple of faster powders.

I am going to try WSF the next time I load lead.