AR scope mounting

Slim Chance · 02-07-2010, 03:18 PM

I pulled the carry handle off my HBAR and replaced the handguards with a Hogue float tube. Completed the deal with a low profile gas block. Now I need scope rings. I know they will have to be high, but how high? Anybody here been down that road that can keep me from having to try several diferent ones?

Brass Nazi · 02-07-2010, 03:23 PM

I have posted this question on other forums. Everyone always recommends the larue lt104?. It is expensive. I have a varmint upper but have not got around to mounting a scope on it yet. I will probably end up buying the larue.

cohutt · 02-07-2010, 04:55 PM

lemme check my varmint rifle. How does one measure- to the bottom of the ring?

Rollis · 02-07-2010, 06:03 PM

Your best resalt will come from having the front mount extennd over the handgaurd. Lareu and Armalight have one piece mounts, there are also teo piece mounts, the hight can only be determined when you mount it.

Blackdog · 02-07-2010, 06:42 PM

I used Yankee Hill riser blocks and medium Burris Signature rings. An extended charging handle also helps. If you're not set on high magnification, maybe a scout mount. It puts the optics forward and out of the way. Makes it easier to keep both eyes open (faster target acquisition). I really like it for a walkin' rifle.

Brass Nazi · 02-07-2010, 06:47 PM

BD,

The gun with the Nikon scope, are you happy with the eye relief? Is it possible to mount the scope lower and still be comfortable? I have an identical scope that I am looking to install on an upper.

Blackdog · 02-07-2010, 06:57 PM

I believe the eye relief on that scope is 3.6". Plenty for me and, up to mid-range magnification, forgiving in the sweet spot. I found that I couldn't mount it any lower. The straight stock doesn't allow it. At the height you see, a natural cheek weld puts me on the money. I like the riser block setup. Not a fan of super high rings, and I think the blocks are more rigid.

BD

Bultx1215 · 02-07-2010, 10:21 PM

I put mine on Warne Quick Detach Ultra High Rings.( #A204LM) I think I got them from Natchez or Midway. Work pretty good and they do return to zero after they have been taken off. I would have preferred the LaRue, but with no clams to burn, these were less than 1/4 the LaRue price.

creophus · 02-08-2010, 07:27 AM

SC, you bring up a good question. I went with an Armalite one piece mount just like this one: http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm?fuseact...Product_ID=586

My scope is a 42mm objective, I believe. If you have a smaller objective you may be able to get away with a smaller height, but if you have a giant 50mm objective you might need something higher.

Regardless of what you go with, you'll want an extended charging handle like BD said.

Bultx1215 · 02-08-2010, 07:52 AM

Here's the link to mine. http://www.glockpost.com/forums/show...9&postcount=42

mark l miller · 02-09-2010, 07:24 PM

I like the Burris PEPR one piece mount. Puts the scope as far forward as possible plus is very stable. Comes in 30mm or 1" size. Not a QD as such but it comes off pretty quick. Much more affordable than some other options. Depends on what your needs & your pocketbook are.

MLM

Triggerbender · 02-09-2010, 10:40 PM

If you can't find it here it might not exist.:4:
AR15 One-Piece Mounts

For a reasonable price setup YHM makes a one piece riser that can get you more eye relief, the rings are up to you for the height you prefer. High Weaver Quad Locks work well on this rail for me.

Oreo · 02-10-2010, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark l miller

I like the Burris PEPR one piece mount. Puts the scope as far forward as possible plus is very stable. Comes in 30mm or 1" size. Not a QD as such but it comes off pretty quick. Much more affordable than some other options. Depends on what your needs & your pocketbook are.

MLM

+1. The Burris PEPR is awesome if you don't need quick release. I have one holding a Bushnell 6500 on my varminter AR.

Slim Chance · 02-10-2010, 05:24 AM

I got it together. Found a one piece riser that I'd forgotten I bought. Set of low rings and it's good to go.

Brass Nazi · 02-11-2010, 05:38 PM

Do they make these http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...m_campaign=657 without the rail machined in the top of them? I mean honestly, why put a rail on top of a set of rings?

creophus · 02-11-2010, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brass Nazi

Do they make these http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...m_campaign=657 without the rail machined in the top of them? I mean honestly, why put a rail on top of a set of rings?

Yo, they put rails on top of rails so that you can rail against the enemy. That's how we pimp your rifle.

Oreo · 02-11-2010, 10:21 PM

They DO make a set of caps without the rail. You'll have to source them extra though I think. Odd thing, last I checked, was that Burris sells just the caps WITH the rails but not just the caps without. To get the ones without you'd have to buy another set of whole rings. Silly really. Since Burris sells the caps w/rails as an upgrade I've wondered if a clever person couldn't convince a vender to just sell him the PEPR with the caps already switched.

BigSlick · 02-11-2010, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brass Nazi

Do they make these http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...m_campaign=657 without the rail machined in the top of them? I mean honestly, why put a rail on top of a set of rings?

To mount an eotech or a Reflex to... some kind of heads up display. Kinda ninjafied, yeah, for you an me, but if I was workin point house to house, trying to find a sight picture in a hurry with high mag scope might make me worry a lil bit.

Using a Reflex, look an rip.

Brass Nazi · 02-12-2010, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigSlick

To mount an eotech or a Reflex to... some kind of heads up display. Kinda ninjafied, yeah, for you an me, but if I was workin point house to house, trying to find a sight picture in a hurry with high mag scope might make me worry a lil bit.

Using a Reflex, look an rip.

I ain't trying to fly a fighter jet

creophus · 02-12-2010, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brass Nazi

I ain't trying to fly a fighter jet

You must not be an "operator".

BigSlick · 02-12-2010, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brass Nazi

I ain't trying to fly a fighter jet

I know, but having the ability should you decide to is priceless

Only thing I would worry about with that mount in making sure I had enough eye relief.

I know, you could always go with a scout setup, but that's kinda limited too.

02-07-2010, 03:18 PM	#1
Slim Chance Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 471	AR scope mounting I pulled the carry handle off my HBAR and replaced the handguards with a Hogue float tube. Completed the deal with a low profile gas block. Now I need scope rings. I know they will have to be high, but how high? Anybody here been down that road that can keep me from having to try several diferent ones? __________________ Guinea pigs, though earnest, tend to exaggerate.

02-07-2010, 03:23 PM	#2
Brass Nazi NO BRASS FOR YOU!!! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The state west of JawJaw Posts: 2,854	I have posted this question on other forums. Everyone always recommends the larue lt104?. It is expensive. I have a varmint upper but have not got around to mounting a scope on it yet. I will probably end up buying the larue. __________________ If you can read this you don't need glasses.

02-07-2010, 04:55 PM	#3
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02-07-2010, 06:03 PM	#4
Rollis Mentor Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.E. OHIO Posts: 830	Your best resalt will come from having the front mount extennd over the handgaurd. Lareu and Armalight have one piece mounts, there are also teo piece mounts, the hight can only be determined when you mount it. __________________ The only use of a handgun is to get you from where you are, to where your rifle is. Why yes, as a matter of fact my knuckles do drag. I wish I could spell.

02-07-2010, 06:42 PM	#5
Blackdog Norwegian Wood Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Suth'un Minnesota Posts: 1,084	I used Yankee Hill riser blocks and medium Burris Signature rings. An extended charging handle also helps. If you're not set on high magnification, maybe a scout mount. It puts the optics forward and out of the way. Makes it easier to keep both eyes open (faster target acquisition). I really like it for a walkin' rifle. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Every shot counts.

02-07-2010, 06:47 PM	#6
Brass Nazi NO BRASS FOR YOU!!! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The state west of JawJaw Posts: 2,854	BD, The gun with the Nikon scope, are you happy with the eye relief? Is it possible to mount the scope lower and still be comfortable? I have an identical scope that I am looking to install on an upper. __________________ If you can read this you don't need glasses.

02-07-2010, 06:57 PM	#7
Blackdog Norwegian Wood Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Suth'un Minnesota Posts: 1,084	I believe the eye relief on that scope is 3.6". Plenty for me and, up to mid-range magnification, forgiving in the sweet spot. I found that I couldn't mount it any lower. The straight stock doesn't allow it. At the height you see, a natural cheek weld puts me on the money. I like the riser block setup. Not a fan of super high rings, and I think the blocks are more rigid. BD __________________ Every shot counts.

02-07-2010, 10:21 PM	#8
Bultx1215 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bulverde TX Posts: 368	I put mine on Warne Quick Detach Ultra High Rings.( #A204LM) I think I got them from Natchez or Midway. Work pretty good and they do return to zero after they have been taken off. I would have preferred the LaRue, but with no clams to burn, these were less than 1/4 the LaRue price.

02-08-2010, 07:27 AM	#9
creophus Family Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 8,308	SC, you bring up a good question. I went with an Armalite one piece mount just like this one: http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm?fuseact...Product_ID=586 My scope is a 42mm objective, I believe. If you have a smaller objective you may be able to get away with a smaller height, but if you have a giant 50mm objective you might need something higher. Regardless of what you go with, you'll want an extended charging handle like BD said. __________________ I am the Bacon King.

02-08-2010, 07:52 AM	#10
Bultx1215 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bulverde TX Posts: 368	Here's the link to mine. http://www.glockpost.com/forums/show...9&postcount=42

02-09-2010, 07:24 PM	#11
mark l miller Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 77	I like the Burris PEPR one piece mount. Puts the scope as far forward as possible plus is very stable. Comes in 30mm or 1" size. Not a QD as such but it comes off pretty quick. Much more affordable than some other options. Depends on what your needs & your pocketbook are. MLM

02-09-2010, 10:40 PM	#12
Triggerbender New to GP Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 27	If you can't find it here it might not exist.:4: AR15 One-Piece Mounts For a reasonable price setup YHM makes a one piece riser that can get you more eye relief, the rings are up to you for the height you prefer. High Weaver Quad Locks work well on this rail for me.

02-10-2010, 05:24 AM	#14
Slim Chance Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 471	I got it together. Found a one piece riser that I'd forgotten I bought. Set of low rings and it's good to go. __________________ Guinea pigs, though earnest, tend to exaggerate.

02-11-2010, 05:38 PM	#15
Brass Nazi NO BRASS FOR YOU!!! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The state west of JawJaw Posts: 2,854	Do they make these http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...m_campaign=657 without the rail machined in the top of them? I mean honestly, why put a rail on top of a set of rings? __________________ If you can read this you don't need glasses.

02-11-2010, 10:21 PM	#17
Oreo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 2,594	They DO make a set of caps without the rail. You'll have to source them extra though I think. Odd thing, last I checked, was that Burris sells just the caps WITH the rails but not just the caps without. To get the ones without you'd have to buy another set of whole rings. Silly really. Since Burris sells the caps w/rails as an upgrade I've wondered if a clever person couldn't convince a vender to just sell him the PEPR with the caps already switched.

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