What is your fav. 9mm bunny fart load. - Page 2

D. Manley · 05-26-2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G23

What burn group is Solo in? Titegroup or WsF?

It good to see ya guys

Faster than either...right next to Bullseye...but, is a single-base powder and extremely clean.

MakeMineaP99 · 05-26-2008, 09:34 PM

Think of Solo 1000 as improved Clays, without the tendancy to spike, runs just as fast.

G23 · 05-26-2008, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. Manley

Faster than either...right next to Bullseye...but, is a single-base powder and extremely clean.

Faster than Titegroup? is it easy to get in trouble with?

SpaceGlocker · 05-27-2008, 05:44 AM

3.8 gn of WSF with a 147 gr flat nose lead bullet....accurate and controlable.....

now if someone would just sell me a 356637 lyman die for the bullets............

D. Manley · 05-27-2008, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G23

Faster than Titegroup? is it easy to get in trouble with?

S-1000 is quite safe...much moreso IMO, than TG. "MakeMineaP99"'s comment above is a pretty accurate comparison but I'd add, it also has more head-room for a safety margin.

colorado4wheel · 06-01-2008, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G23

Faster than Titegroup? is it easy to get in trouble with?

I don't think so. I can load 3.2 gr in a 9mm and it fills the case nicely. I can load up to 4.2 gr with the 115gr bullets. Double charge is very noticeable and it has a pretty high volume so variance in actual weight are not a huge issue. It's a great bunny fart powder. When you only need 3.2 gr (for instance with a 147) to make PF but I have loaded 3.6 gr with 141gr bullets with no signs of pressure (not a recommended load from the decade old data I have). I trust it.

dougader · 06-17-2008, 10:56 AM

In the Hornady 6th Ed., they list S-1000 slower than TG but not by much... the list goes 700X, Nitro 100, TiteGroup, Am. Select, Solo 1000, VV N-320, Green Dot, International, WW 231....

nitesite · 06-17-2008, 12:58 PM

Hodgdon's Relative Burn Rate Chart

N310
Titewad
Red Dot
Clays
Hi-Skor 700-X
Bullseye
Titegroup
American Select
Solo 1000
Green Dot
Trailboss
WSH (edited, first had WSF)
International
PB
VV N320
WST
Accurate #2

I was surprised to find Bullseye and Titegroup side-by-side on Hodgdon's chart, and Clays and Red Dot faster than BE. But it's more up-to-date (Trailboss included) than other charts I have access to. Plus they are a powder company and not a bullet maker or a reloading equipment company so what do they know?

Just musing.....

Gary Newport · 06-17-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitesite

Hodgdon's Relative Burn Rate Chart

N310
Titewad
Red Dot
Clays
Hi-Skor 700-X
Bullseye
Titegroup
American Select
Solo 1000
Green Dot
Trailboss
WSF
International
PB
VV N320
WST
Accurate #2

I was surprised to find Bullseye and Titegroup side-by-side on Hodgdon's chart, and Clays and Red Dot faster than BE. But it's more up-to-date (Trailboss included) than other charts I have access to. Plus they are a powder company and not a bullet maker or a reloading equipment company so what do they know?

Just musing.....

Red Dot faster than Bullseye?

That's the first time I've heard that! I don't think Alliant agrees. And what's with WST and AA #2 at the bottom of the chart? Something about that chart does not compute!

What does Hodgdon know? Well, they know how to buy and distribute powder. I'm not sure they know much about making it!

nitesite · 06-17-2008, 02:54 PM

OK... I didn't hand type the whole chart, just the first ten or twenty entries.

I thought it would get some discussion going again, since initially there was a lot of talk going back and forth but the thread was fading away....

Gary Newport · 06-17-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitesite

OK... I didn't hand type the whole chart, just the first ten or twenty entries.

I thought it would get some discussion going again, since initially there was a lot of talk going back and forth but the thread was fading away....

If you typed the entries in order of fast (at top) to slow (at bottom), Hogdon claims that WSF is faster than WST! That's just wrong.

nitesite · 06-17-2008, 03:44 PM

OOps, it was WSH before WSF.

http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html

GLShooter · 07-28-2009, 05:54 PM

I'm getting ready to try some Steel Challenge stuff. I had forgotten that I had a pound of S-1250 on the shelf. It should be just the ticket for some 125 RNL out of my little steel gun.

Greg L.

Steviewonder1 · 07-29-2009, 12:57 PM

For you AA folks here is mine. The minimum level to function my G19.

115FMJ
AA2 4.3Grains
OAL 1.115
Federal Primers

thorn · 07-30-2009, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitmaster

Anyone have one for a Walther P99?

4.8gr WSF.
124gr plated RN (Using Berry's right now)
1.150 OAL
CCI primer

You *might* be able to go to 4.7gr, but 4.6 wouldn't cycle my P99's slide 100% of the time. A lower OAL might have helped, but typically i stick in the 1.145-1.155 range as i know it feeds well, and instead adjust powder charges to get what i'm after.

thorn

atrfod · 10-01-2009, 03:51 PM

We've been using 3.3grs of Titegroup under 147 Berry's.But I see now that the prices of Berry's are up again,so its back to the drawing board.I picked up some 125 and 147 lead heads from a local caster,but I haven't worked up any loads yet.I should at least be able to get them to work in my wife's M&P,not so sure about my G17.If they don't work out,I'll just get in line for some 147 FMJs from Precision Delta.-Mike

Frostback · 11-11-2009, 06:54 AM

4.7gr HS-6 behind a 147gr cast lead RNFP (ACWW with Lars red). WSP primer. Doing about 810fps out of a stock G-19.

Frosty

Timberwolf · 11-11-2009, 07:07 AM

I don't play the PF game that a lot of shooters do.

When I go to a match - IDPA or IPSC - I know that I'll make PF.

I have 2 loads depending on what powder I can get.

147gr CMJ
3.9gr/Unique
CCI primer but WW and Fed are GTG
OAL 1.125"
PF 137

or

147gr CMJ
3.7gr/N320
CCI primer but WW and Fed are GTG
OAL 1.125"
PF 133

Both loads make PF at most temperatures -20C - +38C.

Both loads recoil straight back with no muzzle flip.:14:

MisterLady27 · 12-22-2009, 08:33 AM

Favorite Light load from my basement

4.2 gr WST over CCI under 115gr poly FP OAL 1.092"

Just trickles out of our 17. Sometimes the GGRLS need another 0.2gr if they're tired for reliable function.

ML27

atrfod · 03-10-2010, 11:47 AM

Just an update on where I'm at now.Its looking like its going to be 3.7grs of Unique under a moly Black Bullets International 147FP,loaded to 1.135".This seems to be a nice smooth load,wife approved.It shoots well out of my G17 and her M&P Pro with no leading.I haven't chronoed them yet,but they feel close enough.If you order a case of 3000 from BBI,they work out to be like $63/1000 shipped.-Mike

GAP shooter · 05-05-2010, 05:44 AM

If your barrel twist likes the heavyweights better... try 160gr. with 2.7 solo 1000 at 1.135. Shoots like a .22 and very accurate out of 2 of my 9's.

Opie · 05-24-2010, 04:39 PM

3.0 clays under 124gr mg hp

Pbairborne · 08-09-2010, 09:13 AM

S-1000 is a fast powder, much closer to Titegroup than to WSF.

nitesite · 08-09-2010, 10:00 AM

I don't use fast powders in my 9mm loads.

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05-26-2008, 09:34 PM	#27
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06-17-2008, 12:58 PM	#33
nitesite Novice Boolit Caster Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Morgan County, AL Posts: 3,028	Hodgdon's Relative Burn Rate Chart N310 Titewad Red Dot Clays Hi-Skor 700-X Bullseye Titegroup American Select Solo 1000 Green Dot Trailboss WSH (edited, first had WSF) International PB VV N320 WST Accurate #2 I was surprised to find Bullseye and Titegroup side-by-side on Hodgdon's chart, and Clays and Red Dot faster than BE. But it's more up-to-date (Trailboss included) than other charts I have access to. Plus they are a powder company and not a bullet maker or a reloading equipment company so what do they know? Just musing..... Last edited by nitesite; 06-17-2008 at 04:00 PM.

07-28-2009, 05:54 PM	#38
GLShooter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 279	I'm getting ready to try some Steel Challenge stuff. I had forgotten that I had a pound of S-1250 on the shelf. It should be just the ticket for some 125 RNL out of my little steel gun. Greg L. __________________ The best firearm for self defense? Any loaded one will do.

07-29-2009, 12:57 PM	#39
Steviewonder1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In the Gun Room Posts: 111	9MM Bunny Fart Loads For you AA folks here is mine. The minimum level to function my G19. 115FMJ AA2 4.3Grains OAL 1.115 Federal Primers __________________ Love my 3 Glocks 21, 19, 35. Steviewonder1 Old School S.W.A.T The Gold Standard Callsign: Blue Thunder ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-11-2009, 06:54 AM	#42
Frostback Shoveling snow Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Republic of Kanada Posts: 929	4.7gr HS-6 behind a 147gr cast lead RNFP (ACWW with Lars red). WSP primer. Doing about 810fps out of a stock G-19. Frosty __________________ You CAN get blood from a stone........IF you throw it hard enough.

05-27-2008, 05:44 AM	#29
SpaceGlocker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 101	3.8 gn of WSF with a 147 gr flat nose lead bullet....accurate and controlable..... now if someone would just sell me a 356637 lyman die for the bullets............

06-17-2008, 10:56 AM	#32
dougader Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chehalem Valley Posts: 79	In the Hornady 6th Ed., they list S-1000 slower than TG but not by much... the list goes 700X, Nitro 100, TiteGroup, Am. Select, Solo 1000, VV N-320, Green Dot, International, WW 231....

06-17-2008, 02:54 PM	#35
nitesite Novice Boolit Caster Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Morgan County, AL Posts: 3,028	OK... I didn't hand type the whole chart, just the first ten or twenty entries. I thought it would get some discussion going again, since initially there was a lot of talk going back and forth but the thread was fading away....

06-17-2008, 03:44 PM	#37
nitesite Novice Boolit Caster Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Morgan County, AL Posts: 3,028	OOps, it was WSH before WSF. http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html

10-01-2009, 03:51 PM	#41
atrfod New to GP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Western SoDak Posts: 25	We've been using 3.3grs of Titegroup under 147 Berry's.But I see now that the prices of Berry's are up again,so its back to the drawing board.I picked up some 125 and 147 lead heads from a local caster,but I haven't worked up any loads yet.I should at least be able to get them to work in my wife's M&P,not so sure about my G17.If they don't work out,I'll just get in line for some 147 FMJs from Precision Delta.-Mike

11-11-2009, 07:07 AM	#43
Timberwolf Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 155	I don't play the PF game that a lot of shooters do. When I go to a match - IDPA or IPSC - I know that I'll make PF. I have 2 loads depending on what powder I can get. 147gr CMJ 3.9gr/Unique CCI primer but WW and Fed are GTG OAL 1.125" PF 137 or 147gr CMJ 3.7gr/N320 CCI primer but WW and Fed are GTG OAL 1.125" PF 133 Both loads make PF at most temperatures -20C - +38C. Both loads recoil straight back with no muzzle flip.:14: __________________ Certified Glock, S&W, Sig, Beretta, 870 Armourer. Proud member of WTFDTSG Club. Stercus Accidit = Latin for Sh*t Happens.

12-22-2009, 08:33 AM	#44
MisterLady27 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 35	Howdy All, Favorite Light load from my basement 4.2 gr WST over CCI under 115gr poly FP OAL 1.092" Just trickles out of our 17. Sometimes the GGRLS need another 0.2gr if they're tired for reliable function. ML27

03-10-2010, 11:47 AM	#45
atrfod New to GP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Western SoDak Posts: 25	Just an update on where I'm at now.Its looking like its going to be 3.7grs of Unique under a moly Black Bullets International 147FP,loaded to 1.135".This seems to be a nice smooth load,wife approved.It shoots well out of my G17 and her M&P Pro with no leading.I haven't chronoed them yet,but they feel close enough.If you order a case of 3000 from BBI,they work out to be like $63/1000 shipped.-Mike

05-05-2010, 05:44 AM	#46
GAP shooter New to GP Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 22	If your barrel twist likes the heavyweights better... try 160gr. with 2.7 solo 1000 at 1.135. Shoots like a .22 and very accurate out of 2 of my 9's.

05-24-2010, 04:39 PM	#47
Opie New to GP Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 6	3.0 clays under 124gr mg hp

08-09-2010, 09:13 AM	#48
Pbairborne New to GP Join Date: May 2010 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 9	S-1000 is a fast powder, much closer to Titegroup than to WSF.

08-09-2010, 10:00 AM	#49
nitesite Novice Boolit Caster Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Morgan County, AL Posts: 3,028	I don't use fast powders in my 9mm loads. .

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